From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org,
paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
mingo@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, namhyung@kernel.org,
vincent.guittot@linaro.org, tj@kernel.org, sbw@mit.edu,
amit.kucheria@linaro.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, rjw@sisk.pl,
wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com, xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 1/9] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs to prevent CPU offline from atomic context
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 21:23:36 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50D09180.4080703@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121214180345.GA22024@redhat.com>
On 12/14/2012 11:33 PM, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 12/13, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>>
>> On 12/13/2012 09:47 PM, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>>> On 12/13, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 12/13/2012 12:42 AM, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Even I don't spot anything wrong with it. But I'll give it some more
>>>>> thought..
>>>>
>>>> Since an interrupt handler can also run get_online_cpus_atomic(), we
>>>> cannot use the __this_cpu_* versions for modifying reader_percpu_refcnt,
>>>> right?
>>>
>>> Hmm. I thought that __this_cpu_* must be safe under preempt_disable().
>>> IOW, I thought that, say, this_cpu_inc() is "equal" to preempt_disable +
>>> __this_cpu_inc() correctness-wise.
>>>
>>> And. I thought that this_cpu_inc() is safe wrt interrupt, like local_t.
>>>
>>> But when I try to read the comments percpu.h, I am starting to think that
>>> even this_cpu_inc() is not safe if irq handler can do the same?
>>>
>>
>> The comment seems to say that its not safe wrt interrupts. But looking at
>> the code in include/linux/percpu.h, IIUC, that is true only about
>> this_cpu_read() because it only disables preemption.
>>
>> However, this_cpu_inc() looks safe wrt interrupts because it wraps the
>> increment within raw_local_irqsave()/restore().
>
> You mean _this_cpu_generic_to_op() I guess. So yes, I think you are right,
> this_cpu_* should be irq-safe, but __this_cpu_* is not.
>
Yes.
> Thanks.
>
> At least on x86 there is no difference between this_ and __this_, both do
> percpu_add_op() without local_irq_disable/enable. But it seems that most
> of architectures use generic code.
>
So now that we can't avoid disabling and enabling interrupts, I was
wondering if we could exploit this to avoid the smp_mb()..
Maybe this is a stupid question, but I'll shoot it anyway...
Does local_irq_disable()/enable provide any ordering guarantees by any chance?
I think the answer is no, but if it is yes, I guess we can do as shown
below to ensure that STORE(reader_percpu_refcnt) happens before
LOAD(writer_signal).
void get_online_cpus_atomic(void)
{
unsigned long flags;
preempt_disable();
//only for writer
local_irq_save(flags);
__this_cpu_add(reader_percpu_refcnt, XXXX);
local_irq_restore(flags);
//no need of an explicit smp_mb()
if (__this_cpu_read(reader_percpu_refcnt) & MASK) {
this_cpu_inc(reader_percpu_refcnt);
} else if (writer_active()) {
...
}
this_cpu_dec(reader_percpu_refcnt, XXXX);
}
I tried thinking about other ways to avoid that smp_mb() in the reader,
but was unsuccessful. So if the above assumption is wrong, I guess we'll
just have to go with the version that uses synchronize_sched() at the
writer-side.
Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-12-18 15:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-12-11 14:03 [RFC PATCH v4 0/9] CPU hotplug: stop_machine()-free CPU hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:04 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/9] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs to prevent CPU offline from atomic context Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-12 17:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-12 17:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-12 18:11 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-12 18:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-12 18:42 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-12 17:53 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-12 18:02 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-12 18:30 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-12 18:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-12 19:12 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-13 15:26 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-13 16:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-13 16:32 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-14 18:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-18 15:53 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat [this message]
2012-12-18 19:43 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-18 20:06 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-19 16:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-19 18:16 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-19 19:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-19 19:49 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-20 13:42 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-20 14:06 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-22 20:17 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-23 16:42 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-24 15:50 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-13 16:32 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-12 19:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-12 19:43 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-12 21:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-11 14:04 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/9] CPU hotplug: Convert preprocessor macros to static inline functions Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:04 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/9] smp, cpu hotplug: Fix smp_call_function_*() to prevent CPU offline properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:04 ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/9] smp, cpu hotplug: Fix on_each_cpu_*() " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:05 ` [RFC PATCH v4 5/9] sched, cpu hotplug: Use stable online cpus in try_to_wake_up() & select_task_rq() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:05 ` [RFC PATCH v4 6/9] kick_process(), cpu-hotplug: Prevent offlining of target CPU properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:05 ` [RFC PATCH v4 7/9] yield_to(), cpu-hotplug: Prevent offlining of other CPUs properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:05 ` [RFC PATCH v4 8/9] kvm, vmx: Add atomic synchronization with CPU Hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:05 ` [RFC PATCH v4 9/9] cpu: No more __stop_machine() in _cpu_down() Srivatsa S. Bhat
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