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From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 04/45] percpu_rwlock: Implement the core design of Per-CPU Reader-Writer Locks
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:54:51 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5117F403.1050300@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130210180607.GA1375@redhat.com>

On 02/10/2013 11:36 PM, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 02/08, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 01:03:53PM +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>>>
>>>  void percpu_read_unlock(struct percpu_rwlock *pcpu_rwlock)
>>>  {
>>> -	read_unlock(&pcpu_rwlock->global_rwlock);
>>
>> We need an smp_mb() here to keep the critical section ordered before the
>> this_cpu_dec() below.  Otherwise, if a writer shows up just after we
>> exit the fastpath, that writer is not guaranteed to see the effects of
>> our critical section.  Equivalently, the prior read-side critical section
>> just might see some of the writer's updates, which could be a bit of
>> a surprise to the reader.
> 
> Agreed, we should not assume that a "reader" doesn't write. And we should
> ensure that this "read" section actually completes before this_cpu_dec().
>

Right, will fix.
 
>>> +	/*
>>> +	 * We never allow heterogeneous nesting of readers. So it is trivial
>>> +	 * to find out the kind of reader we are, and undo the operation
>>> +	 * done by our corresponding percpu_read_lock().
>>> +	 */
>>> +	if (__this_cpu_read(*pcpu_rwlock->reader_refcnt)) {
>>> +		this_cpu_dec(*pcpu_rwlock->reader_refcnt);
>>> +		smp_wmb(); /* Paired with smp_rmb() in sync_reader() */
>>
>> Given an smp_mb() above, I don't understand the need for this smp_wmb().
>> Isn't the idea that if the writer sees ->reader_refcnt decremented to
>> zero, it also needs to see the effects of the corresponding reader's
>> critical section?
> 
> I am equally confused ;)
> 
> OTOH, we can probably aboid any barrier if reader_nested_percpu() == T.
> 

Good point! Will add that optimization, thank you!

> 
>>> +static void announce_writer_inactive(struct percpu_rwlock *pcpu_rwlock)
>>> +{
>>> +   unsigned int cpu;
>>> +
>>> +   drop_writer_signal(pcpu_rwlock, smp_processor_id());
>>
>> Why do we drop ourselves twice?  More to the point, why is it important to
>> drop ourselves first?
> 
> And don't we need mb() _before_ we clear ->writer_signal ?
> 

Oh, right! Or, how about moving announce_writer_inactive() to _after_
write_unlock()?

>>> +static inline void sync_reader(struct percpu_rwlock *pcpu_rwlock,
>>> +			       unsigned int cpu)
>>> +{
>>> +	smp_rmb(); /* Paired with smp_[w]mb() in percpu_read_[un]lock() */
>>
>> As I understand it, the purpose of this memory barrier is to ensure
>> that the stores in drop_writer_signal() happen before the reads from
>> ->reader_refcnt in reader_uses_percpu_refcnt(), thus preventing the
>> race between a new reader attempting to use the fastpath and this writer
>> acquiring the lock.  Unless I am confused, this must be smp_mb() rather
>> than smp_rmb().
> 
> And note that before sync_reader() we call announce_writer_active() which
> already adds mb() before sync_all_readers/sync_reader, so this rmb() looks
> unneeded.
> 

My intention was to help the writer see the ->reader_refcnt drop to zero
ASAP; hence I used smp_wmb() at reader and smp_rmb() here at the writer.
Please correct me if my understanding of memory barriers is wrong here..

> But, at the same time, could you confirm that we do not need another mb()
> after sync_all_readers() in percpu_write_lock() ? I mean, without mb(),
> can't this reader_uses_percpu_refcnt() LOAD leak into the critical section
> protected by ->global_rwlock? Then this LOAD can be re-ordered with other
> memory operations done by the writer.
> 

Hmm.. it appears that we need a smp_mb() there.

> 
> 
> Srivatsa, I think that the code would be more understandable if you kill
> the helpers like sync_reader/raise_writer_signal. Perhaps even all "write"
> helpers, I am not sure. At least, it seems to me that all barriers should
> be moved to percpu_write_lock/unlock. But I won't insist of course, up to
> you.
> 

Sure, sure. Even Tejun pointed out that those helpers are getting in the way
of readability. I'll get rid of them in the next version.

> And cosmetic nit... How about
> 
> 	struct xxx {
> 		unsigned long	reader_refcnt;
> 		bool		writer_signal;
> 	}
> 
> 	struct percpu_rwlock {
> 		struct xxx __percpu	*xxx;
> 		rwlock_t		global_rwlock;
> 	};
> 
> ?
> 
> This saves one alloc_percpu() and ensures that reader_refcnt/writer_signal
> are always in the same cache-line.
>

Ok, that sounds better. Will make that change. Thanks a lot Oleg!

Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat


  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-10 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-22  7:33 [PATCH v5 00/45] CPU hotplug: stop_machine()-free CPU hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:33 ` [PATCH v5 01/45] percpu_rwlock: Introduce the global reader-writer lock backend Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22 18:45   ` Stephen Hemminger
2013-01-22 19:41     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22 19:32   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-01-22 19:58     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22 20:54       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-01-24  4:14     ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-01-24 15:58       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-22  7:33 ` [PATCH v5 02/45] percpu_rwlock: Introduce per-CPU variables for the reader and the writer Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:33 ` [PATCH v5 03/45] percpu_rwlock: Provide a way to define and init percpu-rwlocks at compile time Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:33 ` [PATCH v5 04/45] percpu_rwlock: Implement the core design of Per-CPU Reader-Writer Locks Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-23 18:55   ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-23 19:33     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-23 19:57       ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-24  4:30         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-29 11:12           ` Namhyung Kim
2013-02-08 22:47             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 18:38               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-08 23:10   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 18:06     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-10 19:24       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat [this message]
2013-02-10 19:50         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-10 20:09           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 22:13             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 19:54       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-12 16:15         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 19:10     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 19:47       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 19:57         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 20:13       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-10 20:20         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:34 ` [PATCH v5 05/45] percpu_rwlock: Make percpu-rwlocks IRQ-safe, optimally Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-08 23:44   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 19:27     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 18:42   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-10 19:30     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:34 ` [PATCH v5 06/45] percpu_rwlock: Allow writers to be readers, and add lockdep annotations Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-08 23:47   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 19:32     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:34 ` [PATCH v5 07/45] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs to prevent CPU offline from atomic context Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-29 10:21   ` Namhyung Kim
2013-02-10 19:34     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-08 23:50   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-01-22  7:35 ` [PATCH v5 08/45] CPU hotplug: Convert preprocessor macros to static inline functions Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-08 23:51   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-01-22  7:35 ` [PATCH v5 09/45] smp, cpu hotplug: Fix smp_call_function_*() to prevent CPU offline properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-09  0:07   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 19:41     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 19:56       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 19:59         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:35 ` [PATCH v5 10/45] smp, cpu hotplug: Fix on_each_cpu_*() " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:35 ` [PATCH v5 11/45] sched/timer: Use get/put_online_cpus_atomic() to prevent CPU offline Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:35 ` [PATCH v5 12/45] sched/migration: Use raw_spin_lock/unlock since interrupts are already disabled Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:36 ` [PATCH v5 13/45] sched/rt: Use get/put_online_cpus_atomic() to prevent CPU offline Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:36 ` [PATCH v5 14/45] rcu, CPU hotplug: Fix comment referring to stop_machine() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-09  0:14   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 19:43     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:36 ` [PATCH v5 15/45] tick: Use get/put_online_cpus_atomic() to prevent CPU offline Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:37 ` [PATCH v5 16/45] time/clocksource: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:37 ` [PATCH v5 17/45] softirq: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:38 ` [PATCH v5 18/45] irq: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:38 ` [PATCH v5 19/45] net: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:38 ` [PATCH v5 20/45] block: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:38 ` [PATCH v5 21/45] crypto: pcrypt - Protect access to cpu_online_mask with get/put_online_cpus() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:39 ` [PATCH v5 22/45] infiniband: ehca: Use get/put_online_cpus_atomic() to prevent CPU offline Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:39 ` [PATCH v5 23/45] [SCSI] fcoe: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:39 ` [PATCH v5 24/45] staging: octeon: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:39 ` [PATCH v5 25/45] x86: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:39 ` [PATCH v5 26/45] perf/x86: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:40 ` [PATCH v5 27/45] KVM: Use get/put_online_cpus_atomic() to prevent CPU offline from atomic context Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:40 ` [PATCH v5 28/45] kvm/vmx: Use get/put_online_cpus_atomic() to prevent CPU offline Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:40 ` [PATCH v5 29/45] x86/xen: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-19 18:10   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-02-19 18:29     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:41 ` [PATCH v5 30/45] alpha/smp: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:41 ` [PATCH v5 31/45] blackfin/smp: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-28  9:09   ` Bob Liu
2013-01-28 19:06     ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-29  1:14       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:41 ` [PATCH v5 32/45] cris/smp: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:42 ` [PATCH v5 33/45] hexagon/smp: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:42 ` [PATCH v5 34/45] ia64: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:42 ` [PATCH v5 35/45] m32r: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:42 ` [PATCH v5 36/45] MIPS: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:43 ` [PATCH v5 37/45] mn10300: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:43 ` [PATCH v5 38/45] parisc: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:43 ` [PATCH v5 39/45] powerpc: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:44 ` [PATCH v5 40/45] sh: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:44 ` [PATCH v5 41/45] sparc: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:44 ` [PATCH v5 42/45] tile: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:44 ` [PATCH v5 43/45] cpu: No more __stop_machine() in _cpu_down() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:45 ` [PATCH v5 44/45] CPU hotplug, stop_machine: Decouple CPU hotplug from stop_machine() in Kconfig Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-09  0:15   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 19:45     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:45 ` [PATCH v5 45/45] Documentation/cpu-hotplug: Remove references to stop_machine() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-09  0:16   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-04 13:47 ` [PATCH v5 00/45] CPU hotplug: stop_machine()-free CPU hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-07  4:14   ` Rusty Russell
2013-02-07  6:11     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-08 15:41       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-08 16:44         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-08 18:09           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-11 11:58             ` Vincent Guittot
2013-02-11 12:23               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-11 19:08                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-12  3:58                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-15 13:28                     ` Vincent Guittot
2013-02-15 19:40                       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-18 10:24                         ` Vincent Guittot
2013-02-18 10:34                           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-18 10:51                             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-18 10:58                               ` Vincent Guittot
2013-02-18 15:30                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-18 16:50                                   ` Vincent Guittot
2013-02-18 19:53                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-18 19:53                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-19 10:33                                       ` Vincent Guittot
2013-02-18 10:54                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-02-18 10:57                               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-11 12:41 ` [PATCH v5 01/45] percpu_rwlock: Introduce the global reader-writer lock backend David Howells
2013-02-11 12:56   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat

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