From: Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org, fenghua.yu@intel.com,
tony.luck@intel.com, bp@alien8.de, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] thermal threshold and notification v2.0
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 08:20:32 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <516C1AC0.6030403@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130413013230.GB14726@roeck-us.net>
On 04/12/2013 06:32 PM, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 02:01:18PM -0700, Srinivas Pandruvada wrote:
>> v2.0
>> As suggested by Guenter Roeck, used the previous development in this area
>> as starting point. The first patch is same as what Guenter Roeck submitted
>> before except for checkpatch error for strtoul.As per this patch, the following
>> additional coretemp sysfs entries will be added:
>> tempX_threshold1 - Reflects value of CPU thermal threshold T0.
>> tempX_threshold1_triggered
>> - Reflects status of CPU thermal status register bit 6
>> (THERM_STATUS_THRESHOLD0).
>> tempX_threshold2 - Reflects value of CPU thermal threshold T1.
>> tempX_threshold2_triggered
>> - Reflects status of CPU thermal status register bit 8
>> (THERM_STATUS_THRESHOLD1).
>>
>>
>> The notification mechanism is implemented for package level by using uevent.
>> Also a debugfs interface is added to check count of interrupts and worker fn
>> scheduling.
>>
>>
>> v1.0
>>
>> This is clear that there is reluctance in adding thresholds in coretemp sysfs,
>> during previous attempts. Proably because of lake of use cases.
>> But this time use case may be more compelling.
>>
>> We have many small form factor devices like ultrabooks, slate PCs in the market.
>> Unfortunately these devices reach maximum temperature with relatively less
>> workloads, causing BIOS to do thermal throttling. There are real performance
>> issues due to aggressive BIOS action to control thermals and also thermal breakdown
>> in some cases.
>>
>> Even the most expensive laptops, don't have correct ACPI thermal configuration,
>> so that kernel thermal driver can act. In some case even the trip point is higher
>> than critical temperature setting.
>>
>> Intel has developed several drivers, which can be used to cool the system very efficiently.
>> They include RAPL based cooling driver, Powerclamp driver and P state driver.
>> To utilize these cooling device a closed loop user mode program is required, which
>> will utilize these method and dynamically compensate for high CPU temperatures,
>> without relying on any configuration data.
>> One such solution is developed is "Linux thermal daemon". More details can be
>> obtained from
>> "https://github.com/01org/thermal_daemon/blob/master/ThermalDaemon_Introduction.pdf".
>> This daemon polls for cpu temperature and apply compensation once the CPU reach target
>> temperature.
>>
>> This polling can be mostly avoided, by getting notification for the temperature, where
>> it needs to wake up and get ready for apply compensation. In most of the normal use
>> cases, there may not be any threshold events. So very minimal number of user space
>> notification for thermal thresholds.
>>
>> Notification are added only for package level thresholds, to minimize events. Also
>> interrupts are enabled only when a non tj_max(default) value is written to thresholds.
>>
>> Once thresholds are violated, it uses a rate control of 5 seconds, reducing the number
>> of interrupts, when temperature is hanging around trip point. Using the sticky log bit,
>> it sends kboject uevent change notification for corresponding package sysfs.
>> Once the thermal daemon receives notification, it can change to new threshold or act
>> immediately to reduce CPU temperature.*
>>
>> Guenter Roeck (1):
>> hwmon: (coretemp) Add support for thermal threshold attributes
>>
>> Srinivas Pandruvada (3):
>> x86, mcheck, therm_throt: Process package thresholds
>> hwmon: (coretemp) : Add notification support
>> hwmon: (coretemp) : Add debugfs to support thresholds
>>
>> Documentation/hwmon/coretemp | 8 +
>> arch/x86/include/asm/mce.h | 7 +
>> arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mcheck/therm_throt.c | 63 ++++++-
>> drivers/hwmon/coretemp.c | 292 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>> 4 files changed, 356 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-)
>>
> Rui,
>
> can you have a look at this series ?
>
> I would like to get some feedback from thermal subsystem supporters if hwmon
> is really the right place for this. I may be wrong, but it seems to me it would
> better fit into thermal.
>
> Thanks,
> Guenter
I am fine using thermal zones, but the coretemp will be duplicated in
both coretemp and thermal sysfs and lot of code duplication. Also trip
point in this case is not for activating any cooling device, but just to
notify user space. So this will be a zone with no associated cdevs.
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[not found] <1365541282-19366-1-git-send-email-srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>
2013-04-13 1:32 ` [PATCH 0/4] thermal threshold and notification v2.0 Guenter Roeck
2013-04-15 15:20 ` Srinivas Pandruvada [this message]
2013-04-15 17:53 ` [lm-sensors] " R, Durgadoss
2013-04-16 4:57 ` Zhang Rui
2013-04-16 5:12 ` R, Durgadoss
2013-04-16 4:52 ` Zhang Rui
2013-04-16 4:55 ` Guenter Roeck
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