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From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"mgorman@suse.de" <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"dave@sr71.net" <dave@sr71.net>,
	"hannes@cmpxchg.org" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"matthew.garrett@nebula.com" <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>,
	"riel@redhat.com" <riel@redhat.com>,
	"srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com"
	<srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
	"willy@linux.intel.com" <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	"kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com" <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"lenb@kernel.org" <lenb@kernel.org>, "rjw@sisk.pl" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	"gargankita@gmail.com" <gargankita@gmail.com>,
	"paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Results] [RFC PATCH v4 00/40] mm: Memory Power Management
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 00:26:00 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52448340.7060802@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3908561D78D1C84285E8C5FCA982C28F31D1BA12@ORSMSX106.amr.corp.intel.com>

On 09/27/2013 12:20 AM, Luck, Tony wrote:
>> And that's it! No other case for page movement. And with this conservative
>> approach itself, I'm getting great consolidation ratios!
>> I am also thinking of adding more smartness in the code to be very choosy in
>> doing the movement, and do it only in cases where it is almost guaranteed to
>> be beneficial. For example, I can make the kmempowerd kthread more "lazy"
>> while moving/reclaiming stuff; I can bias the page movements such that "cold"
>> pages are left around (since they are not expected to be referenced much
>> anyway) and only the (few) hot pages are moved... etc.
> 
> Can (or should) this migrator coordinate with khugepaged - I'd hate to see them
> battling over where to move pages ... or undermining each other (your daemon
> frees up a 512MB area ... and khugepaged immediately grabs a couple of 2MB
> pages from it to upgrade some process with a scattershot of 4K pages).
> 

That's a very good point! I need to look into it to see how such sub-optimal
behavior can be avoided (perhaps by making khugepaged region-aware)... Hmmm..
Thanks for bringing it up!

Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-26 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-25 23:13 [RFC PATCH v4 00/40] mm: Memory Power Management Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:13 ` [RFC PATCH v4 01/40] mm: Introduce memory regions data-structure to capture region boundaries within nodes Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-10-23  9:54   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-10-23 14:38     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:14 ` [RFC PATCH v4 02/40] mm: Initialize node memory regions during boot Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:14 ` [RFC PATCH v4 03/40] mm: Introduce and initialize zone memory regions Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:14 ` [RFC PATCH v4 04/40] mm: Add helpers to retrieve node region and zone region for a given page Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:14 ` [RFC PATCH v4 05/40] mm: Add data-structures to describe memory regions within the zones' freelists Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:14 ` [RFC PATCH v4 06/40] mm: Demarcate and maintain pageblocks in region-order in " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-26 22:16   ` Dave Hansen
2013-09-27  6:34     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-10-23 10:17   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-10-23 16:09     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 07/40] mm: Track the freepage migratetype of pages accurately Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 08/40] mm: Use the correct migratetype during buddy merging Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 09/40] mm: Add an optimized version of del_from_freelist to keep page allocation fast Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 10/40] bitops: Document the difference in indexing between fls() and __fls() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 11/40] mm: A new optimized O(log n) sorting algo to speed up buddy-sorting Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 12/40] mm: Add support to accurately track per-memory-region allocation Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 13/40] mm: Print memory region statistics to understand the buddy allocator behavior Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:17 ` [RFC PATCH v4 14/40] mm: Enable per-memory-region fragmentation stats in pagetypeinfo Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:17 ` [RFC PATCH v4 15/40] mm: Add aggressive bias to prefer lower regions during page allocation Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:17 ` [RFC PATCH v4 16/40] mm: Introduce a "Region Allocator" to manage entire memory regions Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-10-23 10:10   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-10-23 16:22     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:17 ` [RFC PATCH v4 17/40] mm: Add a mechanism to add pages to buddy freelists in bulk Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:18 ` [RFC PATCH v4 18/40] mm: Provide a mechanism to delete pages from " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:18 ` [RFC PATCH v4 19/40] mm: Provide a mechanism to release free memory to the region allocator Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:18 ` [RFC PATCH v4 20/40] mm: Provide a mechanism to request free memory from " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:18 ` [RFC PATCH v4 21/40] mm: Maintain the counter for freepages in " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:18 ` [RFC PATCH v4 22/40] mm: Propagate the sorted-buddy bias for picking free regions, to " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 23/40] mm: Fix vmstat to also account for freepages in the " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 24/40] mm: Drop some very expensive sorted-buddy related checks under DEBUG_PAGEALLOC Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 25/40] mm: Connect Page Allocator(PA) to Region Allocator(RA); add PA => RA flow Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 26/40] mm: Connect Page Allocator(PA) to Region Allocator(RA); add PA <= " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 27/40] mm: Update the freepage migratetype of pages during region allocation Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:20 ` [RFC PATCH v4 28/40] mm: Provide a mechanism to check if a given page is in the region allocator Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:20 ` [RFC PATCH v4 29/40] mm: Add a way to request pages of a particular region from " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:20 ` [RFC PATCH v4 30/40] mm: Modify move_freepages() to handle pages in the region allocator properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:20 ` [RFC PATCH v4 31/40] mm: Never change migratetypes of pageblocks during freepage stealing Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:20 ` [RFC PATCH v4 32/40] mm: Set pageblock migratetype when allocating regions from region allocator Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:21 ` [RFC PATCH v4 33/40] mm: Use a cache between page-allocator and region-allocator Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:21 ` [RFC PATCH v4 34/40] mm: Restructure the compaction part of CMA for wider use Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:21 ` [RFC PATCH v4 35/40] mm: Add infrastructure to evacuate memory regions using compaction Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:21 ` [RFC PATCH v4 36/40] kthread: Split out kthread-worker bits to avoid circular header-file dependency Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:22 ` [RFC PATCH v4 37/40] mm: Add a kthread to perform targeted compaction for memory power management Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:22 ` [RFC PATCH v4 38/40] mm: Add a mechanism to queue work to the kmempowerd kthread Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:22 ` [RFC PATCH v4 39/40] mm: Add intelligence in kmempowerd to ignore regions unsuitable for evacuation Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:22 ` [RFC PATCH v4 40/40] mm: Add triggers in the page-allocator to kick off region evacuation Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:26 ` [Results] [RFC PATCH v4 00/40] mm: Memory Power Management Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:40   ` Andrew Morton
2013-09-25 23:47     ` Andi Kleen
2013-09-26  1:14       ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-09-26 13:09         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-26  1:15       ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-09-26  1:21         ` Andrew Morton
2013-09-26  1:50           ` Andi Kleen
2013-09-26  2:59             ` Andrew Morton
2013-09-26 13:42               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-26 15:58                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-09-26 17:00                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-26 18:06                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-09-26 18:33                       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-26 18:50                         ` Luck, Tony
2013-09-26 18:56                           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat [this message]
2013-09-26 13:37             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-26 15:23           ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-09-26 13:16         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-26 12:58     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-26 15:29       ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-09-26 17:22       ` Luck, Tony
2013-09-26 17:54         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-26 19:38         ` Andi Kleen
2013-11-12  8:02       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-11-12 17:34         ` Dave Hansen
2013-11-12 18:44           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-11-12 18:49         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat

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