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From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 06/40] mm: Demarcate and maintain pageblocks in region-order in the zones' freelists
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 12:04:23 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <524526EF.1080101@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5244B22C.9020503@sr71.net>

On 09/27/2013 03:46 AM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 09/25/2013 04:14 PM, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>> @@ -605,16 +713,22 @@ static inline void __free_one_page(struct page *page,
>>  		buddy_idx = __find_buddy_index(combined_idx, order + 1);
>>  		higher_buddy = higher_page + (buddy_idx - combined_idx);
>>  		if (page_is_buddy(higher_page, higher_buddy, order + 1)) {
>> -			list_add_tail(&page->lru,
>> -				&zone->free_area[order].free_list[migratetype].list);
>> +
>> +			/*
>> +			 * Implementing an add_to_freelist_tail() won't be
>> +			 * very useful because both of them (almost) add to
>> +			 * the tail within the region. So we could potentially
>> +			 * switch off this entire "is next-higher buddy free?"
>> +			 * logic when memory regions are used.
>> +			 */
>> +			add_to_freelist(page, &area->free_list[migratetype]);
>>  			goto out;
>>  		}
>>  	}
> 
> Commit 6dda9d55b says that this had some discrete performance gains.

I had seen the comments about this but not the patch which made that change.
Thanks for pointing the commit to me! But now that I went through the changelog
carefully, it appears as if there were only some slight benefits in huge page
allocation benchmarks, and the results were either inconclusive or unsubstantial
in most other benchmarks that the author tried.

> It's a bummer that this deoptimizes it, and I think that (expected)
> performance degredation at least needs to be referenced _somewhere_.
>

I'm not so sure about that. Yes, I know that my patchset treats all pages
equally (by adding all of them _far_ _away_ from the head of the list), but
given that the above commit didn't show any significant improvements, I doubt
whether my patchset will lead to any noticeable _degradation_. Perhaps I'll try
out the huge-page allocation benchmark and observe what happens with my patchset.
 
> I also find it very hard to take code seriously which stuff like this:
> 
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_PAGEALLOC
>> +		WARN(region->nr_free == 0, "%s: nr_free messed up\n", __func__);
>> +#endif
> 
> nine times.
> 

Hmm, those debug checks were pretty invaluable for me when testing the code.
I retained them in the patches so that if other people test it and find
problems, they would be able to send bug reports with good amount of info as
to what exactly went wrong. Besides, this patchset adds a ton of new code, and
this list manipulation framework along with the bitmap-based radix tree is one
of the core components. If that goes for a toss, everything from there onwards
will be a train-wreck! So I felt having these checks and balances would be very
useful to validate the correct working of each piece and to debug complex
problems easily.

But please help me understand your point correctly - are you suggesting that
I remove these checks completely or just make them gel well with the other code
so that they don't become such an eyesore as they are at the moment (with all
the #ifdefs sticking out etc)?

If you are suggesting the latter, I completely agree with you. I'll find out
a way to do that, and if you have any suggestions, please let me know!

Thank you!

Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat


  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-27  6:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-25 23:13 [RFC PATCH v4 00/40] mm: Memory Power Management Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:13 ` [RFC PATCH v4 01/40] mm: Introduce memory regions data-structure to capture region boundaries within nodes Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-10-23  9:54   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-10-23 14:38     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:14 ` [RFC PATCH v4 02/40] mm: Initialize node memory regions during boot Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:14 ` [RFC PATCH v4 03/40] mm: Introduce and initialize zone memory regions Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:14 ` [RFC PATCH v4 04/40] mm: Add helpers to retrieve node region and zone region for a given page Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:14 ` [RFC PATCH v4 05/40] mm: Add data-structures to describe memory regions within the zones' freelists Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:14 ` [RFC PATCH v4 06/40] mm: Demarcate and maintain pageblocks in region-order in " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-26 22:16   ` Dave Hansen
2013-09-27  6:34     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat [this message]
2013-10-23 10:17   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-10-23 16:09     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 07/40] mm: Track the freepage migratetype of pages accurately Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 08/40] mm: Use the correct migratetype during buddy merging Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 09/40] mm: Add an optimized version of del_from_freelist to keep page allocation fast Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 10/40] bitops: Document the difference in indexing between fls() and __fls() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 11/40] mm: A new optimized O(log n) sorting algo to speed up buddy-sorting Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 12/40] mm: Add support to accurately track per-memory-region allocation Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 13/40] mm: Print memory region statistics to understand the buddy allocator behavior Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:17 ` [RFC PATCH v4 14/40] mm: Enable per-memory-region fragmentation stats in pagetypeinfo Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:17 ` [RFC PATCH v4 15/40] mm: Add aggressive bias to prefer lower regions during page allocation Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:17 ` [RFC PATCH v4 16/40] mm: Introduce a "Region Allocator" to manage entire memory regions Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-10-23 10:10   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-10-23 16:22     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:17 ` [RFC PATCH v4 17/40] mm: Add a mechanism to add pages to buddy freelists in bulk Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:18 ` [RFC PATCH v4 18/40] mm: Provide a mechanism to delete pages from " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:18 ` [RFC PATCH v4 19/40] mm: Provide a mechanism to release free memory to the region allocator Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:18 ` [RFC PATCH v4 20/40] mm: Provide a mechanism to request free memory from " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:18 ` [RFC PATCH v4 21/40] mm: Maintain the counter for freepages in " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:18 ` [RFC PATCH v4 22/40] mm: Propagate the sorted-buddy bias for picking free regions, to " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 23/40] mm: Fix vmstat to also account for freepages in the " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 24/40] mm: Drop some very expensive sorted-buddy related checks under DEBUG_PAGEALLOC Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 25/40] mm: Connect Page Allocator(PA) to Region Allocator(RA); add PA => RA flow Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 26/40] mm: Connect Page Allocator(PA) to Region Allocator(RA); add PA <= " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 27/40] mm: Update the freepage migratetype of pages during region allocation Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:20 ` [RFC PATCH v4 28/40] mm: Provide a mechanism to check if a given page is in the region allocator Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:20 ` [RFC PATCH v4 29/40] mm: Add a way to request pages of a particular region from " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:20 ` [RFC PATCH v4 30/40] mm: Modify move_freepages() to handle pages in the region allocator properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:20 ` [RFC PATCH v4 31/40] mm: Never change migratetypes of pageblocks during freepage stealing Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:20 ` [RFC PATCH v4 32/40] mm: Set pageblock migratetype when allocating regions from region allocator Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:21 ` [RFC PATCH v4 33/40] mm: Use a cache between page-allocator and region-allocator Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:21 ` [RFC PATCH v4 34/40] mm: Restructure the compaction part of CMA for wider use Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:21 ` [RFC PATCH v4 35/40] mm: Add infrastructure to evacuate memory regions using compaction Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:21 ` [RFC PATCH v4 36/40] kthread: Split out kthread-worker bits to avoid circular header-file dependency Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:22 ` [RFC PATCH v4 37/40] mm: Add a kthread to perform targeted compaction for memory power management Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:22 ` [RFC PATCH v4 38/40] mm: Add a mechanism to queue work to the kmempowerd kthread Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:22 ` [RFC PATCH v4 39/40] mm: Add intelligence in kmempowerd to ignore regions unsuitable for evacuation Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:22 ` [RFC PATCH v4 40/40] mm: Add triggers in the page-allocator to kick off region evacuation Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:26 ` [Results] [RFC PATCH v4 00/40] mm: Memory Power Management Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-25 23:40   ` Andrew Morton
2013-09-25 23:47     ` Andi Kleen
2013-09-26  1:14       ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-09-26 13:09         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-26  1:15       ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-09-26  1:21         ` Andrew Morton
2013-09-26  1:50           ` Andi Kleen
2013-09-26  2:59             ` Andrew Morton
2013-09-26 13:42               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-26 15:58                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-09-26 17:00                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-26 18:06                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-09-26 18:33                       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-26 18:50                         ` Luck, Tony
2013-09-26 18:56                           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-26 13:37             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-26 15:23           ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-09-26 13:16         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-26 12:58     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-26 15:29       ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-09-26 17:22       ` Luck, Tony
2013-09-26 17:54         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-09-26 19:38         ` Andi Kleen
2013-11-12  8:02       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-11-12 17:34         ` Dave Hansen
2013-11-12 18:44           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-11-12 18:49         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat

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