From: Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
Cc: Preeti Murthy <preeti.lkml@gmail.com>,
Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
nicolas.pitre@linaro.org, mingo@redhat.com,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
Lists linaro-kernel <linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] idle: store the idle state index in the struct rq
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 15:09:49 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52EB6F65.8050008@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140131090230.GM5002@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Hi Peter,
On 01/31/2014 02:32 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 02:15:47PM +0530, Preeti Murthy wrote:
>>>
>>> If the driver does its own random mapping that will break the governor
>>> logic. So yes, the states are ordered, the higher the index is, the more you
>>> save power and the higher the exit latency is.
>>
>> The above point holds true for only the ladder governor which sees the idle
>> states indexed in the increasing order of target_residency/exit_latency.
>>
>> However this is not true as far as I can see in the menu governor. It
>> acknowledges the dynamic ordering of idle states as can be seen in the
>> menu_select() function in the menu governor, where the idle state for the
>> CPU gets chosen. You will notice that, even if it is found that the predicted
>> idle time of the CPU is smaller than the target residency of an idle state,
>> the governor continues to search for suitable idle states in the higher indexed
>> states although it should have halted if the idle states' were ordered according
>> to their target residency.. The same holds for exit_latency.
>>
>> Hence I think this patch would make sense only with additional information
>> like exit_latency or target_residency is present for the scheduler. The idle
>> state index alone will not be sufficient.
>
> Alternatively, can we enforce sanity on the cpuidle infrastructure to
> make the index naturally ordered? If not, please explain why :-)
The commit id 71abbbf856a0e70 says that there are SOCs which could have
their target_residency and exit_latency values change at runtime. This
commit thus removed the ordering of the idle states according to their
target_residency/exit_latency. Adding Len and Arjan to the CC.
Thanks
Regards
Preeti U Murthy
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-31 9:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-30 14:09 [RFC PATCH 0/3] cpuidle/sched: move main idle function in the idle.c Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] cpuidle: split cpuidle_idle_call main function into functions Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 15:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-30 15:39 ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 19:39 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-01-31 14:10 ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] cpuidle: move the cpuidle_idle_call function to idle.c Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 19:42 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-01-30 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] idle: store the idle state index in the struct rq Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 15:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-30 16:27 ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 16:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-30 17:25 ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 17:50 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-01-30 21:02 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-01-31 9:46 ` Vincent Guittot
2014-01-31 10:04 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-01-31 10:44 ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-31 8:45 ` Preeti Murthy
2014-01-31 9:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-31 9:39 ` Preeti U Murthy [this message]
2014-01-31 10:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-31 14:04 ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-31 14:12 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2014-01-31 15:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-01-31 15:37 ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-31 15:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-01-31 16:35 ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-31 16:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-01-31 18:19 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-02-01 6:00 ` Brown, Len
2014-02-01 15:31 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-02-01 19:39 ` Brown, Len
2014-02-01 20:13 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-02-01 15:40 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-02-03 12:54 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-02-03 14:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-02-03 14:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-03 16:17 ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-02-11 16:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-11 17:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-02-11 19:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-12 15:16 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-02-12 16:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-02-12 17:37 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-02-12 19:05 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-02-04 9:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-02-04 14:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-02-04 14:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-02-03 14:58 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-01-31 10:15 ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-02-03 6:33 ` Preeti U Murthy
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