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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
To: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>
Cc: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Preeti Murthy <preeti.lkml@gmail.com>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Lists linaro-kernel <linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] idle: store the idle state index in the struct rq
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 06:38:11 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52EFA9D3.1030601@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140203125441.GD19029@e103034-lin>

On 2/3/2014 4:54 AM, Morten Rasmussen wrote:

>
> I'm therefore not convinced that idle state index is the right thing to
> give the scheduler. Using a cost metric would be better in my
> opinion.


I totally agree with this, and we may need two separate cost metrics

1) A latency driven one
2) A performance impact on

first one is pretty much the exit latency related time, sort of a "expected time to first instruction"
(currently menuidle has the 99.999% worst case number, which is not useful for this, but is a first
approximation). This is obviously the dominating number for expected-short running tasks

second on is more of a "is there any cache/TLB left or is it flushed" kind of metric. It's more tricky
to compute, since what is the cost of an empty cache (or even a cache migration) after all....
.... but I suspect it's in part what the scheduler will care about more for expected-long  running tasks.





  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-03 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-30 14:09 [RFC PATCH 0/3] cpuidle/sched: move main idle function in the idle.c Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] cpuidle: split cpuidle_idle_call main function into functions Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 15:27   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-30 15:39     ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 19:39   ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-01-31 14:10     ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] cpuidle: move the cpuidle_idle_call function to idle.c Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 19:42   ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-01-30 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] idle: store the idle state index in the struct rq Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 15:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-30 16:27     ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 16:35       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-30 17:25         ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 17:50           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-01-30 21:02             ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-01-31  9:46               ` Vincent Guittot
2014-01-31 10:04               ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-01-31 10:44               ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-31  8:45           ` Preeti Murthy
2014-01-31  9:02             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-31  9:39               ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-01-31 10:24                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-31 14:04                 ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-31 14:12                   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2014-01-31 15:07                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-01-31 15:37                   ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-31 15:50                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-01-31 16:35                       ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-31 16:42                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-01-31 18:19                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-02-01  6:00                         ` Brown, Len
2014-02-01 15:31                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-02-01 19:39                             ` Brown, Len
2014-02-01 20:13                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-02-01 15:40                           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-02-03 12:54                         ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-02-03 14:38                           ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2014-02-03 14:56                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-03 16:17                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-02-11 16:41                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-11 17:12                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-02-11 19:47                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-12 15:16                                 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-02-12 16:14                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-02-12 17:37                                     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-02-12 19:05                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-02-04  9:14                               ` Ingo Molnar
2014-02-04 14:53                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-02-04 14:56                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-02-03 14:58                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-01-31 10:15             ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-02-03  6:33               ` Preeti U Murthy

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