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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: "Philippe Rétornaz" <philippe.retornaz@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, Alan Cox <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Romain Perier <romain.perier@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/47] kernel: Add support for poweroff handler call chain
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 06:22:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5447AFB2.4010701@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <544764B1.9020303@gmail.com>

On 10/22/2014 01:02 AM, Philippe Rétornaz wrote:
> Le 21/10/2014 15:29, Guenter Roeck a écrit :
>> On 10/20/2014 11:46 PM, Philippe Rétornaz wrote:
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>> - Use raw notifiers protected by spinlocks instead of atomic notifiers
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> +/**
>>>> + *    do_kernel_power_off - Execute kernel poweroff handler call chain
>>>> + *
>>>> + *    Calls functions registered with register_power_off_handler.
>>>> + *
>>>> + *    Expected to be called from machine_power_off as last step of
>>>> + *    the poweroff sequence.
>>>> + *
>>>> + *    Powers off the system immediately if a poweroff handler function
>>>> + *    has been registered. Otherwise does nothing.
>>>> + */
>>>> +void do_kernel_power_off(void)
>>>> +{
>>>> +    spin_lock(&power_off_handler_lock);
>>>> +    raw_notifier_call_chain(&power_off_handler_list, 0, NULL);
>>>> +    spin_unlock(&power_off_handler_lock);
>>>> +}
>>>
>>> I don't get it. You are still in atomic context inside the poweroff
>>> callback
>>> since you lock it with a spinlock.
> [...]
>>>
>>> Why not using the blocking_notifier_* family ?
>>> It will lock with a read-write semaphore under which you can sleep.
>>>
>>> For instance, twl4030_power_off will sleep, since it is doing I2C access.
>>> So you cannot call it in atomic context.
>>>
>>
>> Learning something new all the time. I assumed that spin_lock (unlike
>> spin_lock_irqsafe) would not run in atomic context.
>>
>> I did not want to use a sleeping lock because I am not sure if that
>> works for all architectures; some disable (local) interrupts before
>> calling the function (eg arm and arm64), and I don't want to change
>> that semantics.
>
> You're right and it even disable all others CPUs (if any).
> I don't understand why it needs to disable local interrupts since the
> code path to pm_power_off is simply doing:
>
> syscall -> migrate to reboot cpu -> disable local interrupt -> disable others cpu -> pm_power_off().
>
> I don't understand why we cannot re-enable interrupts right before pm_power_off().
> And it looks like that all pm_power_off callbacks which can sleep are broken.
> I still wonder how i2c communication can works without local interrupts ... it looks
> like somebody is re-enabling them (or the code was never run)
>
Good question. Or the code was never run under arm, or the drivers have a polling
fallback if interrupts are disabled.

>> I have another idea how to get there without changing the lock situation
>> while executing the call chain - just set a flag indicating that it is
>> running and execute it without lock. Would that work ?
>
> I don't think inventing a new locking mechanism is a good solution.
> We need first to know for sure if we can sleep or not in pm_power_off.
> If yes then we need to re-enable local interrupts and we can use a mutex.
> If not then the atomic notifier is fine and a lots of drivers are wrong.
>

I had another look into the kernel, checking all the callers of machine_power_off().
In some cases, the function is called directly from interrupt handlers, meaning
there is no guarantee that interrupts are enabled to start with when it is called.
So there is more to fix if the semantics of pm_power_off requires interrupts
to be enabled.

My current solution is to use a spinlock with disabled interrupts during
poweroff handler registration and unregistration, and no lock at all while
executing the call chain. That is not perfect, but it retains the current
situation and thus guarantees that existing code works as before. This
disconnects the sleep vs. no sleep problem from the current patch series,
and we can solve that problem separately.

Thanks,
Guenter

  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-22 13:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-21  4:12 [PATCH v2 00/47] kernel: Add support for poweroff handler call chain Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 01/47] " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  6:46   ` Philippe Rétornaz
2014-10-21 13:29     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22  8:02       ` Philippe Rétornaz
2014-10-22 13:22         ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2014-10-21  9:34   ` Johan Hovold
2014-10-21 10:30     ` Lee Jones
2014-10-21 13:32       ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 13:34     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 15:50     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 18:27       ` Johan Hovold
2014-10-21 12:26   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21 12:44     ` Heiko Stübner
2014-10-21 13:17     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 14:15       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21 16:11         ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 02/47] memory: emif: Use API function to determine poweroff capability Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 18:48   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2014-10-22 22:18     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 03/47] hibernate: Call have_kernel_power_off instead of checking pm_power_off Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 04/47] m68k: Replace mach_power_off with pm_power_off Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22  3:50   ` Greg Ungerer
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 05/47] mfd: as3722: Drop reference to pm_power_off from devicetree bindings Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  8:15   ` Lee Jones
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 06/47] gpio-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 07/47] qnap-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 08/47] kernel: Move pm_power_off to common code Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 15:31   ` Ralf Baechle
2014-10-22 15:43     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-24  9:47   ` James Hogan
2014-10-24 15:53     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-24 10:02   ` [uml-user] " Lennox Wu
2014-10-24 10:03   ` Lennox Wu
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 09/47] mfd: palmas: Register with kernel poweroff handler Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 10/47] mfd: axp20x: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 11/47] mfd: retu: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 12/47] mfd: ab8500-sysctrl: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-27 15:59   ` Linus Walleij
2014-10-27 16:42     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 13/47] mfd: max8907: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 14/47] mfd: tps80031: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 15/47] mfd: dm355evm_msp: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 16/47] mfd: tps6586x: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 17/47] mfd: tps65910: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 18/47] mfd: twl4030-power: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 19/47] mfd: rk808: Register poweroff handler " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 20/47] mfd: rn5t618: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 21/47] ipmi: Register " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 22/47] power/reset: restart-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:32   ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-22 22:19     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 23/47] power/reset: gpio-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:32   ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 24/47] power/reset: as3722-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:33   ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 25/47] power/reset: qnap-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:33   ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 26/47] power/reset: msm-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:33   ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 27/47] power/reset: vexpress-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:34   ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 28/47] power/reset: at91-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:34   ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 29/47] power/reset: ltc2952-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:35   ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 30/47] x86: iris: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 31/47] x86: apm: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  8:46   ` Jiri Kosina
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 32/47] x86: olpc: Register xo1 poweroff handler " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 33/47] staging: nvec: Register " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 34/47] acpi: Register poweroff handler " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 12:27   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 35/47] arm: Register " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 36/47] arm64: psci: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 11:23   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-10-22 15:38     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 12:52   ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-22 15:37     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 37/47] avr32: atngw100: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 38/47] ia64: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 39/47] m68k: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 40/47] mips: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 15:32   ` Ralf Baechle
2014-10-22 15:44     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 41/47] sh: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 42/47] x86: lguest: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 43/47] x86: ce4100: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:13 ` [PATCH v2 44/47] x86: intel-mid: Drop registration of dummy poweroff handlers Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:13 ` [PATCH v2 45/47] x86: pmc_atom: Register poweroff handler with kernel poweroff handler Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:13 ` [PATCH v2 46/47] efi: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:13 ` [PATCH v2 47/47] kernel: Remove pm_power_off Guenter Roeck

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