From: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: rjw@rjwysocki.net, preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
nicolas.pitre@linaro.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org,
patches@linaro.org, lenb@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 2/6] sched: idle: cpuidle: Check the latency req before idle
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:58:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5460E0A5.9040508@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141110152803.GX10501@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 11/10/2014 04:28 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 04:12:47PM +0100, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>> All this is to remove the poll idle state from the x86 cpuidle driver in
>> order to remove the CPUIDLE_DRIVER_STATE_START (this one forces to write
>> always ugly code in the cpuidle framework).
>>
>> This poll state introduces the CPUIDLE_DRIVER_STATE_START macro. If you look
>> at the different governors and the code, you can checkout what kind of
>> tricks this macro introduces and how that makes the code ugly.
>>
>> For the sake of what ? Just a small optimization in the menu governor.
>>
>> I suppose that has been introduce and then evolved on a wrong basis. So now
>> we have to deal with that.
>>
>> This patchset provides a first round of cleanup around the poll function,
>> the next patchset will move the 5us timer optimization from the menu
>> governor and the last patchset will remove the CPUIDLE_DRIVER_STATE_START
>> ugly macro.
>
> I don't get it, I've clearly not stared at it long enough, but why is
> that STATE_START crap needed anywhere?
Excellent question :)
On x86, the config option ARCH_HAS_CPU_RELAX is set (x86 is the only
one). That leads to the macro CPUIDLE_DRIVER_STATE_START equal 1.
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/tree/include/linux/cpuidle.h#n221
Then the acpi cpuidle driver and the intel_driver begin to fill the idle
state at index == CPUIDLE_DRIVER_STATE_START, so leaving the 0th idle
state empty.
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/tree/drivers/idle/intel_idle.c#n848
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/tree/drivers/acpi/processor_idle.c#n953
Then when the driver is registered and if ARCH_HAS_CPU_RELAX is set, the
cpuidle framework insert the 0th with the poll state (reminder : only
for x86).
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/tree/drivers/cpuidle/driver.c#n195
If you look at the ladder governor (which I believe nobody is still
using it), or at the menu governor, all the indexes begin at
CPUIDLE_DRIVER_STATE_START, so all the code is preventing to use the 0th
state ... :)
So why is needed the poll state ?
1. When the latency_req is 0 (it returns 0, so the poll state)
2. When the select's menu governor fails to find a state *and* if the
next timer is before 5us
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/tree/drivers/cpuidle/driver.c#n195
And when we investigate the same code but on the other archs, the
CPUIDLE_DRIVER_STATE_START dance makes things slightly different.
So the conclusion is, we are inserting a state in the idle state array
but we do everything to prevent to use it :)
For me it appears logical to just kill this state from the x86 idle
drivers and move it in the idle_mainloop in case an idle state selection
fails.
> To me it appears 'natural' to have a latency_req==0 state, why does it
> need so much special casing?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-10 15:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-07 14:31 [PATCH V3 0/6] sched: idle: cpuidle: cleanups and fixes Daniel Lezcano
2014-11-07 14:31 ` [PATCH V3 1/6] sched: idle: Add a weak arch_cpu_idle_poll function Daniel Lezcano
2014-11-08 10:39 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-11-10 12:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-10 14:20 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-11-10 15:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-11 11:00 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-11-07 14:31 ` [PATCH V3 2/6] sched: idle: cpuidle: Check the latency req before idle Daniel Lezcano
2014-11-08 10:40 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-11-10 12:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-10 15:12 ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-11-10 15:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-10 15:58 ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]
2014-11-10 16:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-10 17:19 ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-11-10 19:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-10 22:21 ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-11-11 10:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-12 13:53 ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-11-12 15:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-12 17:52 ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-11-07 14:31 ` [PATCH V3 3/6] sched: idle: Get the next timer event and pass it the cpuidle framework Daniel Lezcano
2014-11-08 10:44 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-11-10 12:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-10 15:15 ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-11-07 14:31 ` [PATCH V3 4/6] cpuidle: idle: menu: Don't reflect when a state selection failed Daniel Lezcano
2014-11-08 10:41 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-11-07 14:31 ` [PATCH V3 5/6] cpuidle: menu: Fix the get_typical_interval Daniel Lezcano
2014-11-07 14:31 ` [PATCH V3 6/6] cpuidle: menu: Move the update function before its declaration Daniel Lezcano
2014-11-07 14:34 ` [PATCH V3 0/6] sched: idle: cpuidle: cleanups and fixes Daniel Lezcano
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