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From: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
To: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"rjw@rjwysocki.net" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"nicolas.pitre@linaro.org" <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: fair: Fix wrong idle timestamp usage
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 10:46:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <552F76F7.6090405@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150415171057.GA4300@e105550-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On 04/15/2015 07:10 PM, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 04:43:17PM +0100, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>> On 04/15/2015 02:18 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 12:00:24PM +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>>>> The find_idlest_cpu is assuming the rq->idle_stamp information reflects when
>>>> the cpu entered the idle state. This is wrong as the cpu may exit and enter
>>>> the idle state several times without the rq->idle_stamp being updated.
>>>
>>> Sure, but you forgot to tell us why it matters.
>>
>> Yes, right. Thanks for pointing this out.
>>
>> Assuming we are in the situation where there are several idle cpus in
>> the same idle state.
>>
>> With the current code, the function find_idlest_cpu will choose a cpu
>> with the shortest idle duration. This information is based on the
>> rq->idle_stamp variable and is correct until one of the idle cpu is
>> exiting the cpuidle_enter function and re-entering it again. As soon as
>> this happen, the rq->idle_stamp value is no longer a reliable information.
>>
>> Example:
>>
>>    * CPU0 and CPU1 are running
>>    * CPU2 and CPU3 are in the C3 state.
>>    * CPU2 entered idle at T2
>>    * CPU3 entered idle at T3
>>    * T2 < T3
>>
>> The function find_idlest_cpu will choose CPU3 because it has a shorter
>> idle duration.
>>
>> Then CPU3 is woken up by an interrupt, process it and re-enter idle C3.
>>
>> The information will still give the out to date information T2 < T3 and
>> find_idlest_cpu will choose CPU2 instead of CPU3.
>
> I can't get the example to match your description of how
> find_idlest_cpu() is supposed to work :-(
>
> Did you mean CPU2 (not CPU3) getting woken up by an interrupt and
> find_busiest_cpu() choosing CPU3 instead of CPU2 after the interrupt?
>
> In your example find_busiest_cpu() should return CPU3 before the
> interrupt as it went to sleep last and the interrupt on CPU3 should not
> affect that choice as CPU3 is still the last cpu to go to sleep
> (regardless of your patch). No?

Yes you are right. I meant CPU2 is woken up by the interrupt.


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  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-16  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-15 10:00 [PATCH 1/3] cpuidle: Store the idle start time stamp Daniel Lezcano
2015-04-15 10:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] cpuidle: Add some comments in the cpuidle_enter function Daniel Lezcano
2015-04-15 13:46   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-04-15 16:07     ` Daniel Lezcano
2015-04-15 10:00 ` [PATCH 3/3] sched: fair: Fix wrong idle timestamp usage Daniel Lezcano
2015-04-15 12:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-15 15:43     ` Daniel Lezcano
2015-04-15 16:02       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-07 15:31         ` Daniel Lezcano
2015-04-15 17:10       ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-04-16  8:46         ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]
2015-04-15 10:20 ` [PATCH 1/3] cpuidle: Store the idle start time stamp Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-15 12:29   ` Daniel Lezcano
2015-04-15 12:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-15 12:50       ` Daniel Lezcano
2015-04-15 13:11         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-15 10:25 ` Peter Zijlstra

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