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From: Steve Muckle <steve.muckle@linaro.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Juri Lelli <Juri.Lelli@arm.com>,
	Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] sched/fair: move cpufreq hook to update_cfs_rq_load_avg()
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:06:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <570E8A8F.2030109@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0hSBZaw=p2vR1PFnU9naoQ-KJUxznVfB=AasG0GnfTakA@mail.gmail.com>

On 04/13/2016 09:07 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>>> If you want to do remote updates, I guess that will require an
>>>>> irq_work to run the update on the target CPU, but then you'll probably
>>>>> want to neglect the rate limit on it as well, so it looks like a
>>>>> "need_update" flag in struct update_util_data will be useful for that.

Have you added rate limiting at the hook level that I missed? I thought
it was just inside schedutil.

>>>>
>>>> Why is it required to run the update on the target CPU?
>>>
>>> The fast switching and intel_pstate are the main reason.
>>>
>>> They both have to write to registers of the target CPU and the code to
>>> do that needs to run on that CPU.

Ok thanks, I'll take another look at this.

I was thinking it might be nice to be able to push the decision on
whether to send the IPI in to the governor/hook client. For example in
the schedutil case, you don't need to IPI if sugov_should_update_freq()
= false (outside the slight chance it might be true when it runs on the
target). Beyond that perhaps for policy reasons it's desired to not send
the IPI if next_freq <= cur_freq, etc.

>> And these two seem to be the only interesting cases for you, because
>> if you need to work for the worker thread to schedule to eventually
> 
> s/work/wait/ (sorry)
> 
>> change the CPU frequency for you, that will defeat the whole purpose
>> here.

I was hoping to submit at some point a patch to change the context for
slow path frequency changes to RT or DL context, so this would benefit
that case as well.

thanks,
steve

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-13 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-22  0:21 [PATCH 1/2] sched/fair: move cpufreq hook to update_cfs_rq_load_avg() Steve Muckle
2016-03-22  0:21 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: do not call cpufreq hook unless util changed Steve Muckle
2016-03-24 23:47   ` Sai Gurrappadi
2016-03-25  1:01     ` Steve Muckle
2016-03-25 21:24       ` Sai Gurrappadi
2016-03-28 12:02 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/fair: move cpufreq hook to update_cfs_rq_load_avg() Dietmar Eggemann
2016-03-28 16:34   ` Steve Muckle
2016-03-28 18:30     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-03-28 19:38       ` Steve Muckle
2016-03-30 19:35         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-31  1:42           ` Steve Muckle
2016-03-31  7:37             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-31 21:26               ` Steve Muckle
2016-04-01  9:20                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-11 19:28                   ` Steve Muckle
2016-04-11 21:20                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-04-12 14:29                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-04-12 19:38                         ` Steve Muckle
2016-04-13 14:45                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-04-13 17:53                             ` Steve Muckle
2016-04-13 19:39                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-04-13  0:08                         ` Steve Muckle
2016-04-13  4:48                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-04-13 16:05                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-04-13 16:07                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-04-13 18:06                                 ` Steve Muckle [this message]
2016-04-13 19:50                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-04-20  2:22                                     ` Steve Muckle
2016-03-31  9:27           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-03-31  9:34             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-31  9:50               ` Vincent Guittot
2016-03-31 10:47                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-31 12:14                   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-03-31 12:34                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-31 12:50                       ` Vincent Guittot

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