From: Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/9] PM / Domains: Fix race conditions during boot
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 13:46:43 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7hsii58evg.fsf@deeprootsystems.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141024161804.GH3729@sirena.org.uk> (Mark Brown's message of "Fri, 24 Oct 2014 17:18:04 +0100")
Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> writes:
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 09:12:39AM -0700, Kevin Hilman wrote:
>> Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org> writes:
>
>> > There may be more than one device in a PM domain which then will be
>> > probed at different points in time.
>
>> > Depending on timing and runtime PM support, in for the device related
>> > driver/subsystem, a PM domain may be advised to power off after a
>> > successful probe sequence.
>
>> > A general requirement for a device within a PM domain, is that the
>> > PM domain must stay powered during the probe sequence. To cope with
>> > such requirement, let's add two new APIs, dev_pm_domain_get|put().
>
>> I'm confused. Why arent' pm_runtime_get*() and pm_runtime_put*() working?
>
>> What's not explained here (or what I'm not understanding) is why a PM
>> domain is powering off if it has active devices.
>
> The issue AIUI is what happens during system boot - if one device in a
> domain probes and marks itself runtime idle then that will trigger
> domain powerdown even if there is another device in the domain that
> hasn't yet been probed. This can cause undesirable glitches (or worse)
> during boot depending on what's getting powered down.
I'm not quite seeing how this series fixes that problem.
Looking at platform devices in PATCH 4/9, the new _get() and _put() are
still happening around ->probe(), so if a platform device runtime suspends
after probe, don't we still have a PM domain that can turn off?
Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-30 20:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-13 14:02 [PATCH v3 0/9] PM / Domains: Fix race conditions during boot Ulf Hansson
2014-10-13 14:02 ` [PATCH v3 1/9] PM / Domains: Add dev_pm_domain_get|put() APIs Ulf Hansson
2014-10-13 14:02 ` [PATCH v3 2/9] PM / Domains: Enable genpd to support ->get|put() callbacks Ulf Hansson
2014-10-13 14:02 ` [PATCH v3 3/9] amba: Keep PM domain powered during ->probe() Ulf Hansson
2014-10-13 14:02 ` [PATCH v3 4/9] drivercore / platform: " Ulf Hansson
2014-10-30 20:47 ` Kevin Hilman
2014-10-31 0:07 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-10-31 9:23 ` Ulf Hansson
2014-11-01 0:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-31 9:19 ` Ulf Hansson
2014-10-13 14:02 ` [PATCH v3 5/9] i2c: core: " Ulf Hansson
2014-10-13 14:02 ` [PATCH v3 6/9] spi: " Ulf Hansson
2014-10-13 14:02 ` [PATCH v3 7/9] mmc: core: Attach PM domain prior probing of SDIO func driver Ulf Hansson
2014-10-13 14:02 ` [PATCH v3 8/9] mmmc: core: Keep PM domain powered during ->probe() " Ulf Hansson
2014-10-13 14:02 ` [PATCH v3 9/9] PM / Domains: Remove pm_genpd_dev_need_restore() API Ulf Hansson
2014-10-24 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 0/9] PM / Domains: Fix race conditions during boot Kevin Hilman
2014-10-24 16:18 ` Mark Brown
2014-10-30 20:46 ` Kevin Hilman [this message]
2014-10-30 23:56 ` Mark Brown
2014-10-31 9:16 ` Ulf Hansson
2014-11-01 0:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-01 1:08 ` pm_runtime_enable() in ->probe() (was: Re: [PATCH v3 0/9] PM / Domains: Fix race conditions during boot) Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-01 1:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-03 17:00 ` pm_runtime_enable() in ->probe() Kevin Hilman
2014-11-03 20:06 ` Alan Stern
2014-11-04 0:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-04 16:45 ` Alan Stern
2014-11-03 23:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-01 15:15 ` pm_runtime_enable() in ->probe() (was: Re: [PATCH v3 0/9] PM / Domains: Fix race conditions during boot) Alan Stern
2014-11-04 0:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-04 1:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-03 14:03 ` [PATCH v3 0/9] PM / Domains: Fix race conditions during boot Ulf Hansson
2014-11-04 1:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-04 8:20 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-11-04 13:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-04 8:54 ` Ulf Hansson
2014-11-04 9:05 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-11-04 9:24 ` Ulf Hansson
2014-11-04 13:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-04 17:01 ` Ulf Hansson
2014-11-04 18:29 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-11-04 21:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-05 8:17 ` Ulf Hansson
2014-11-04 13:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-04 13:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-04 16:42 ` Ulf Hansson
2014-11-07 17:25 ` Grygorii Strashko
2014-11-11 11:05 ` Ulf Hansson
2014-11-12 18:01 ` Grygorii Strashko
2014-11-13 2:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-13 20:13 ` Grygorii Strashko
2014-11-13 14:05 ` Pavel Machek
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