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From: Antti P Miettinen <amiettinen@nvidia.com>
To: linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org
Cc: cpufreq@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/8] RFC: CPU frequency min/max as PM QoS params
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:52:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ipk9qwff.fsf@amiettinen-lnx.nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 201201172227.59080.rjw@sisk.pl

"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> writes:
[..]
> If I understand you correctly, you want to have an iterface for specifying
> min and max frequencies from user space.  I can understand that.  At least
> I can see some use cases for that.
>
> Now, the question is if using the PM QoS framework is the right way to do
> that.
>
>> The change to cpufreq core just adds two read-only files to be able to
>> inspect user_policy.min/max in addition to the currently enforced
>> policy->min/max. Yes - there has been the possibility of using the sysfs
>> min for setting a frequency floor but this is problematic when there are
>> multiple clients. You'd need some kind of arbitration and book keeping
>> to set/restore the minimum. And PM QoS provides exactly this mechanism.
>
> Just as I suspected. :-)
>
> OK, so what's your anticipated usage model of this?

We've been experimenting with hooking the frequency boost to e.g. touch
screen UI events and application launch. I believe there are also some
specific applications that would want to either set a frequency floor or
ceiling in some situations.

>> I think the kernel needs to be extended to handle more PM constraints
>> and PM QoS is the closest thing I know for this kind of
>> functionality. However, I'm open to suggestions about alternative
>> approaches. I think we need e.g. more than just min/max "reduction
>> operators". Ideas, anyone?
>
> I first need to know who those multiple clients are going to be.
>
> Thanks,
> Rafael

For the touch screen UI, the boost could be implemented as a kernel
module hooked with suitable event filter to the input event
stream. Another possibility is the UI framework in user space. Some
specific user space applications would also be clients.

	--Antti

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-18  7:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-16  6:59 [PATCH v2 0/8] RFC: CPU frequency min/max as PM QoS params Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-16  6:59 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] PM QoS: Simplify PM QoS expansion/merge Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-16 21:22   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-18  2:50     ` mark gross
2012-01-16  6:59 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] PM QoS: Add CPU frequency minimum as PM QoS param Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-16  6:59 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] cpufreq: Export user_policy min/max Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-16  6:59 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] cpufreq: Preserve sysfs min/max request Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-16  6:59 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] cpufreq: Enforce PM QoS minimum limit Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-16  6:59 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] input: CPU frequency booster Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-16  7:00 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] PM QoS: Add CPU frequency maximum as PM QoS param Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-16  7:00 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] cpufreq: Enforce PM QoS maximum frequency Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-16 21:38 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] RFC: CPU frequency min/max as PM QoS params Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-17  6:14   ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-17  6:25     ` [linux-pm] " Mansoor, Illyas
2012-01-17  9:54       ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-17 21:27     ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-18  7:52       ` Antti P Miettinen [this message]
2012-01-18 23:10         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-19  6:41           ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-18  3:13   ` mark gross
2012-01-18  8:15     ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-18 23:16       ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-18 23:24     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-19  6:49       ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-19 22:40         ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-22  9:55           ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-19 16:41       ` [linux-pm] " mark gross
2012-01-19 19:48         ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-19 22:15           ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-22 10:35             ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-22 23:43               ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-02  6:06                 ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-02-08  8:49                   ` Per CPU frequency constraints (was Re: [PATCH v2 0/8] RFC: CPU frequency min/max as PM QoS params) Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-19 23:36         ` [linux-pm] [PATCH v2 0/8] RFC: CPU frequency min/max as PM QoS params Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-18  3:44 ` mark gross
2012-01-18 20:22   ` Antti P Miettinen
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     [not found] ` <20120113152445.GA3005@mgross-G62>
2012-01-13 16:17   ` Antti P Miettinen

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