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From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: "Uwe Kleine-König"
	<u.kleine-koenig-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
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	Dirk Behme <dirk.behme-V5te9oGctAVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux PM list <linux-pm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
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	Geert Uytterhoeven
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	Kevin Hilman <khilman-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: Clocks used by another OS/CPU (was: Re: [RFC PATCH] clk: renesas: cpg-mssr: Add interface for critical core clocks)
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2017 10:17:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8d255a76-babe-312d-15b3-3474969f2410@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170701181408.yuocymwtj5dgt74d-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>



On 01/07/17 19:14, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 07:02:48AM +0200, Dirk Behme wrote:

[...]

>>
>>
>> The other problem is security related. If, at all, you have to do it the
>> other way around, then:
>>
>> Make Linux a consumer of the other CPU's (trusted/trustzone/whatever
>> secured) OS clock driver.

Yes, that's better and is getting common on newer platforms. They have
separate M-class(or even low A-class e.g. A5/A7) processors to handle
all the system management.

The new ARM SCMI specification[0][1] is designed to standardize the
interface. It covers the clocks in clock protocol.

> 
> That doesn't matter much. Either way the first CPU has to provide the
> master side of this device (as it needs clks for booting up) and the 2nd
> gets this virtual clk device that forwards clk requests to the first
> CPU.
> 
> On my machine (Udoo Neo, A9 + M4) the A9 is the primary CPU that is
> started by the bootrom. If I want the M4 being the primary device I'd
> need support in the bootloader to wait long enough (i.e. until the M4 is
> up) before letting the A9 jump into Linux.

I think that is platform specific. On few platforms I have seen
recently, it's M4 or whatever core that handles system power management
boots first and is responsible to even boot secondaries.

> Managable I'd say. This way would even make sense if the M4 runs a
> rt critical OS that shouldn't be forced to wait on the non-rt A9 to> enable a clk.
> 

Exactly.

-- 
Regards,
Sudeep


[0] http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.den0056a/index.html
[1] https://marc.info/?l=devicetree&m=149849482623492&w=2
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-03  9:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-29  9:27 Clocks used by another OS/CPU (was: Re: [RFC PATCH] clk: renesas: cpg-mssr: Add interface for critical core clocks) Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-06-29 10:28 ` Dirk Behme
2017-06-29 11:18   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-06-29 13:18     ` Clocks used by another OS/CPU Dirk Behme
2017-06-29 13:22       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found] ` <CAMuHMdW9+CNTTOVO4SRRUxuz3ajLbY2j1uG8b_RpHX52NPwXrQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-29 11:56   ` Clocks used by another OS/CPU (was: Re: [RFC PATCH] clk: renesas: cpg-mssr: Add interface for critical core clocks) Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-06-29 12:07     ` Clocks used by another OS/CPU Dirk Behme
2017-06-29 12:45       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-06-29 12:55         ` Dirk Behme
2017-06-30  8:02 ` Clocks used by another OS/CPU (was: Re: [RFC PATCH] clk: renesas: cpg-mssr: Add interface for critical core clocks) Peter De Schrijver
2017-06-30 15:58 ` Rob Herring
2017-06-30 20:24   ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]     ` <20170630202453.eh6vaehkap3as4np-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-01  5:02       ` Dirk Behme
2017-07-01 18:14         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2017-07-02  5:48           ` Dirk Behme
     [not found]             ` <6098d579-f206-5a23-bbfc-ac13e0448479-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-02  9:23               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2017-07-03  7:40                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]           ` <20170701181408.yuocymwtj5dgt74d-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-03  9:17             ` Sudeep Holla [this message]
2017-07-04  7:31               ` Peter De Schrijver
2017-07-04  8:49                 ` Sudeep Holla
2017-07-05  7:25                   ` Peter De Schrijver

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