From: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com>
To: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>,
Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: "Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Michael Grzeschik <m.grzeschik@pengutronix.de>,
Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
Abel Vesa <abel.vesa@linaro.org>,
Devarsh Thakkar <devarsht@lewv0571a.ent.ti.com>,
Peng Fan <peng.fan@oss.nxp.com>, Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>,
Maulik Shah <maulik.shah@oss.qualcomm.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>,
Devarsh Thakkar <devarsht@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] pmdomain: Add generic ->sync_state() support to genpd
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 13:59:40 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8e748129-3348-4bf1-9fc8-fadc569fa48e@ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250417142513.312939-1-ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Hi,
On 17/04/2025 17:24, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> If a PM domain (genpd) is powered-on during boot, there is probably a good
> reason for it. Therefore it's known to be a bad idea to allow such genpd to be
> powered-off before all of its consumer devices have been probed. This series
> intends to fix this problem.
>
> We have been discussing these issues at LKML and at various Linux-conferences
> in the past. I have therefore tried to include the people I can recall being
> involved, but I may have forgotten some (my apologies), feel free to loop them
> in.
>
> A few notes:
> *)
> Even if this looks good, the last patch can't go in without some additional
> changes to a couple of existing genpd provider drivers. Typically genpd provider
> drivers that implements ->sync_state() need to call of_genpd_sync_state(), but I
> will fix this asap, if we think the series makes sense.
>
> *)
> Patch 1 -> 3 are just preparatory cleanups.
>
> *)
> I have tested this with QEMU with a bunch of local test-drivers and DT nodes.
> Let me know if you want me to share this code too.
>
>
> Please help review and test!
> Finally, a big thanks to Saravana for all the support!
I had a quick test with this on TI's AM62 board. A few observations.
With this series, all the individual PDs seem to get a state_synced file:
...
/sys/devices/genpd_provider/pd:143/state_synced
/sys/devices/genpd_provider/pd:54/state_synced
/sys/devices/genpd_provider/pd:105/state_synced
/sys/devices/genpd_provider/pd:62/state_synced
/sys/devices/genpd_provider/pd:141/state_synced
...
Is that on purpose? What do these files represent? They all seem to be "1".
When I boot up, I see the sync_state pending:
[ 22.541292] ti_sci_pm_domains
44043000.system-controller:power-controller: sync_state() pending due to
2b10000.audio-contro
ller
[ 22.554839] ti_sci_pm_domains
44043000.system-controller:power-controller: sync_state() pending due to
e0f0000.watchdog
[ 22.566550] ti_sci_pm_domains
44043000.system-controller:power-controller: sync_state() pending due to
e030000.watchdog
[ 22.577854] ti_sci_pm_domains
44043000.system-controller:power-controller: sync_state() pending due to
e020000.watchdog
[ 22.589239] ti_sci_pm_domains
44043000.system-controller:power-controller: sync_state() pending due to
e010000.watchdog
[ 22.600674] ti_sci_pm_domains
44043000.system-controller:power-controller: sync_state() pending due to
e000000.watchdog
[ 22.611875] ti_sci_pm_domains
44043000.system-controller:power-controller: sync_state() pending due to
30200000.dss
[ 22.622813] ti_sci_pm_domains
44043000.system-controller:power-controller: sync_state() pending due to
fd00000.gpu
[ 22.633565] ti_sci_pm_domains
44043000.system-controller:power-controller: sync_state() pending due to
b00000.temperature-s
ensor
[ 22.645540] ti_sci_pm_domains
44043000.system-controller:power-controller: sync_state() pending due to
2b300050.target-modu
le
[ 22.657067] ti_sci_pm_domains
44043000.system-controller:power-controller: sync_state() pending due to
chosen:framebuffer@0
The "real" state_synced file on this platform is:
/sys/devices/platform/bus@f0000/44043000.system-controller/44043000.system-controller:power-controller/state_synced
In strict mode, this shows 0, and if I echo 1 (interestingly "echo 1 >
/sys/..." doesn't work, I need "echo -n 1 > /sys/...), I see PDs getting
powered off (added a debug print there):
[ 87.335487] ti_sci_pd_power_off 88
[ 87.342896] ti_sci_pd_power_off 87
[ 87.347404] ti_sci_pd_power_off 86
[ 87.356464] ti_sci_pd_power_off 128
[ 87.361296] ti_sci_pd_power_off 127
[ 87.368714] ti_sci_pd_power_off 126
[ 87.373349] ti_sci_pd_power_off 125
[ 87.378077] ti_sci_pd_power_off 62
[ 87.382587] ti_sci_pd_power_off 60
[ 87.387194] ti_sci_pd_power_off 59
[ 87.391759] ti_sci_pd_power_off 53
[ 87.396648] ti_sci_pd_power_off 52
[ 87.400801] ti_sci_pd_power_off 51
[ 87.405131] ti_sci_pd_power_off 75
[ 87.409238] ti_sci_pd_power_off 143
[ 87.413328] ti_sci_pd_power_off 142
[ 87.417403] ti_sci_pd_power_off 141
[ 87.421494] ti_sci_pd_power_off 105
[ 87.425632] ti_sci_pd_power_off 104
[ 87.429815] ti_sci_pd_power_off 103
[ 87.433941] ti_sci_pd_power_off 102
[ 87.438054] ti_sci_pd_power_off 158
[ 87.442151] ti_sci_pd_power_off 156
[ 87.446324] ti_sci_pd_power_off 155
[ 87.450463] ti_sci_pd_power_off 154
[ 87.454549] ti_sci_pd_power_off 153
[ 87.458671] ti_sci_pd_power_off 152
[ 87.462571] ti_sci_pd_power_off 43
[ 87.466425] ti_sci_pd_power_off 42
[ 87.470254] ti_sci_pd_power_off 41
[ 87.474032] ti_sci_pd_power_off 40
[ 87.477825] ti_sci_pd_power_off 39
[ 87.481609] ti_sci_pd_power_off 38
[ 87.485432] ti_sci_pd_power_off 37
[ 87.489256] ti_sci_pd_power_off 36
[ 87.493077] ti_sci_pd_power_off 95
[ 87.496845] ti_sci_pd_power_off 132
[ 87.500780] ti_sci_pd_power_off 107
[ 87.504583] ti_sci_pd_power_off 114
[ 87.508429] ti_sci_pd_power_off 79
[ 87.512050] ti_sci_pd_power_off 148
[ 87.515859] ti_sci_pd_power_off 147
[ 87.519644] ti_sci_pd_power_off 106
[ 87.523414] ti_sci_pd_power_off 149
[ 87.527203] ti_sci_pd_power_off 50
[ 87.530971] ti_sci_pd_power_off 49
[ 87.534708] ti_sci_pd_power_off 48
[ 87.538401] ti_sci_pd_power_off 35
[ 87.542040] ti_sci_pd_power_off 186
We do have a lot of "extra" PDs enabled by the bootloader...
With the timeout mode, I see the sync_state() getting called some
seconds after the boot has finished.
So... I think it all works as expected. You can take this as some kind
of Tested-by, but it'd be good if someone from TI who knows more about
PDs would test this too =).
Interestingly, I see a difference in behavior to the old patches from
Abel: with the old patches, if I boot up with the DSS (display
subsystem) enabled by the bootloader, it looks the same as with these
patches. However, with the old patches, when I load the DSS driver, and
it probes successfully, the DSS PD will get managed correctly, i.e. if I
blank the screen, the DSS PD will go to off, even if the sync_state has
not been called.
With these patches the DSS PD will stay on, no matter if I load the DSS
driver or not, and will only go off after sync_state has been called.
I'm not quite sure here, but I think the behavior with the old patches
makes sense: when the driver for a particular PD loads, the PD no longer
needs to be kept on. Or... Is this about the case where a PD has
multiple consumers? The PD provider cannot know how many consumers there
are for a single PD, so it must keep all boot-time-enabled PDs on until
sync_state() (i.e. all the consumer drivers have probed)?
Tomi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-24 10:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-17 14:24 [PATCH 00/11] pmdomain: Add generic ->sync_state() support to genpd Ulf Hansson
2025-04-17 14:24 ` [PATCH 01/11] pmdomain: core: Convert genpd_power_off() to void Ulf Hansson
2025-04-22 13:27 ` Abel Vesa
2025-04-17 14:25 ` [PATCH 02/11] pmdomain: core: Simplify return statement in genpd_power_off() Ulf Hansson
2025-04-22 13:28 ` Abel Vesa
2025-04-17 14:25 ` [PATCH 03/11] pmdomain: core: Use genpd->opp_table to simplify error/remove path Ulf Hansson
2025-04-22 13:33 ` Abel Vesa
2025-04-17 14:25 ` [PATCH 04/11] pmdomain: core: Add a bus and a driver for genpd providers Ulf Hansson
2025-04-22 14:02 ` Abel Vesa
2025-04-23 7:34 ` Ulf Hansson
2025-04-17 14:25 ` [PATCH 05/11] pmdomain: core: Use device_set_node() to assign the fwnode too Ulf Hansson
2025-04-17 20:55 ` Saravana Kannan
2025-04-23 7:30 ` Ulf Hansson
2025-04-22 14:04 ` Abel Vesa
2025-04-17 14:25 ` [PATCH 06/11] pmdomain: core: Add the genpd->dev to the genpd provider bus Ulf Hansson
2025-04-22 14:06 ` Abel Vesa
2025-04-17 14:25 ` [PATCH 07/11] pmdomain: core: Export a common ->sync_state() helper for genpd providers Ulf Hansson
2025-04-22 14:10 ` Abel Vesa
2025-05-07 16:23 ` Dan Carpenter
2025-05-08 10:05 ` Ulf Hansson
2025-04-17 14:25 ` [PATCH 08/11] pmdomain: core: Add internal ->sync_state() support " Ulf Hansson
2025-04-18 0:23 ` Saravana Kannan
2025-04-23 7:58 ` Ulf Hansson
2025-04-17 14:25 ` [PATCH 09/11] driver core: Add dev_set_drv_sync_state() Ulf Hansson
2025-04-22 14:15 ` Abel Vesa
2025-04-17 14:25 ` [PATCH 10/11] pmdomain: core: Default to use of_genpd_sync_state() for genpd providers Ulf Hansson
2025-04-18 0:29 ` Saravana Kannan
2025-04-17 14:25 ` [PATCH 11/11] pmdomain: core: Leave powered-on genpds on until ->sync_state() Ulf Hansson
2025-04-18 0:50 ` Saravana Kannan
2025-04-23 7:46 ` Ulf Hansson
2025-04-18 0:53 ` [PATCH 00/11] pmdomain: Add generic ->sync_state() support to genpd Saravana Kannan
2025-04-24 10:59 ` Tomi Valkeinen [this message]
2025-04-25 12:17 ` Ulf Hansson
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