From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
To: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux ACPI <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/9] PM: Reconcile different driver options for runtime PM integration with system sleep
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2025 12:59:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJZ5v0g4Q+cqMKNnBDaFsnj4zSH_iKV+EDz9BnfF23cATkczYA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPDyKFq7gydO0uioA53LqXk-N+Bjp4bwkaRRzMeWv+F=zpy2Jw@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 12:41 PM Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 at 12:34, Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 12:31 PM Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 21:25, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Everyone,
> > > >
> > > > This series addresses a couple of issues related to the integration of runtime
> > > > PM with system sleep I was talking about at the OSMP-summit 2025:
> > > >
> > > > https://lwn.net/Articles/1021332/
> > > >
> > > > Most importantly, DPM_FLAG_SMART_SUSPEND cannot be used along with
> > > > pm_runtime_force_suspend/resume() due to some conflicting expectations
> > > > about the handling of device runtime PM status between these functions
> > > > and the PM core.
> > > >
> > > > Also pm_runtime_force_suspend/resume() currently cannot be used in PCI
> > > > drivers and in drivers that collaborate with the general ACPI PM domain
> > > > because they both don't expect their mid-layer runtime PM callbacks to
> > > > be invoked during system-wide suspend and resume.
> > > >
> > > > Patch [1/9] is a preparatory cleanup changing the code to use 'true' and
> > > > 'false' as needs_force_resume flag values for consistency.
> > > >
> > > > Patch [2/9] makes pm_runtime_force_suspend() check needs_force_resume along
> > > > with the device's runtime PM status upfront, and bail out if it is set,
> > > > which allows runtime PM status updates to be eliminated from both that function
> > > > and pm_runtime_force_resume().
> > > >
> > > > Patch [3/9] causes the smart_suspend flag to be taken into account by
> > > > pm_runtime_force_resume() which allows it to resume devices with smart_suspend
> > > > set whose runtime PM status has been changed to RPM_ACTIVE by the PM core at
> > > > the beginning of system resume. After this patch, drivers that use
> > > > pm_runtime_force_suspend/resume() can also set DPM_FLAG_SMART_SUSPEND which
> > > > may be useful, for example, if devices handled by them are involved in
> > > > dependency chains with other devices setting DPM_FLAG_SMART_SUSPEND.
> > > >
> > > > The next two patches, [4-5/9], put pm_runtime_force_suspend/resume()
> > > > and needs_force_resume under CONFIG_PM_SLEEP for consistency and also
> > > > because using them outside system-wide PM transitions really doesn't make
> > > > sense.
> > > >
> > > > Patch [6/9] makes the code for getting a runtime PM callback for a device
> > > > a bit more straightforward in preparation for the subsequent changes.
> > >
> > > I can't find this one. Seems like you did not submit it.
> > >
> > > Perhaps make a resend and fixup the patch-numbering too?
> >
> > I'm going to send a v2, but the patch in question is here (wrong number):
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-acpi/3306233.5fSG56mABF@rjwysocki.net/
>
> No, that's patch2 (which was named pacth0). :-) Nevermind, I think we
> made some progress so I am awaiting a v2 before continuing my reviews.
OK
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-26 10:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-25 19:14 [PATCH v1 0/9] PM: Reconcile different driver options for runtime PM integration with system sleep Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-06-25 19:16 ` [PATCH v1 1/9] PM: Use true/false as power.needs_force_resume values Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-06-26 10:10 ` Ulf Hansson
2025-06-25 19:17 ` [PATCH v1 0/9] PM: Check power.needs_force_resume in pm_runtime_force_suspend() Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-06-25 19:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-06-26 10:10 ` Ulf Hansson
2025-06-26 10:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-06-25 19:18 ` [PATCH v1 3/9] PM: Make pm_runtime_force_resume() work with DPM_FLAG_SMART_SUSPEND Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-06-26 10:26 ` Ulf Hansson
2025-06-25 19:19 ` [PATCH v1 4/9] PM: Move pm_runtime_force_suspend/resume() under CONFIG_PM_SLEEP Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-06-26 9:38 ` Ulf Hansson
2025-06-26 9:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-06-26 10:04 ` Ulf Hansson
2025-06-26 10:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-06-26 10:20 ` Ulf Hansson
2025-06-25 19:20 ` [PATCH v1 5/9] PM: Move needs_force_resume " Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-06-25 19:24 ` [PATCH v1 7/9] PM: sleep: Add strict_midlayer flag to struct dev_pm_info Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-06-25 19:24 ` [PATCH v1 8/9] ACPI: PM: Set/clear power.strict_midlayer during attach/detach Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-06-25 19:25 ` [PATCH v1 9/9] PCI: PM: Set power.strict_midlayer in pci_pm_init() Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-06-26 10:30 ` [PATCH v1 0/9] PM: Reconcile different driver options for runtime PM integration with system sleep Ulf Hansson
2025-06-26 10:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-06-26 10:41 ` Ulf Hansson
2025-06-26 10:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
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