From: Patrick Boake <patrick@boake.ca>
To: linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org>
Subject: PM: hibernate freeze/image-creation stage has no watchdog-equivalent protection (real 6h12m stall)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2026 11:25:04 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1xRB8C-000cy5-2N@Tobo> (raw)
Hi,
Real-world report, not a patch -- happy to help test if useful, but wanted
to raise this while it's fresh and while the related watchdog work is
active.
System: Debian 12.15, kernel 6.1.0-54-amd64 (Debian's packaged LTS --
predates the DPM watchdog extension below, noted explicitly so I'm not
overclaiming what I actually reproduced).
On 2026-11-10, an automated maintenance script called `systemctl
hibernate` after a normal, successful run. Kernel log:
Nov 10 03:40:23 kernel: PM: hibernation: hibernation entry
<complete silence for 6h12m -- no kernel messages of any kind, confirmed
via journalctl -k across that whole span>
Nov 11 09:52:27 kernel: PM: hibernation: Marking nosave pages: ...
Nov 11 09:52:28 kernel: PM: hibernation: Creating image:
Nov 11 09:52:28 kernel: PM: hibernation: Need to copy 1573875 pages
Nov 11 09:52:28 kernel: PM: hibernation: Basic memory bitmaps freed
Nov 11 09:52:28 kernel: PM: hibernation: hibernation exit
No second "hibernation entry" -- this is one continuous call that took
6h12m to get from entry to its own snapshot-prep steps, then aborted
without ever writing an image or powering off. Userspace was frozen for
the entire span (a 5-minute heartbeat process went completely silent for
the same window), so whatever it was stuck on, it wasn't something a
userspace watchdog could have caught -- the watchdog would freeze too.
Two things point at where the kernel's own protection stops:
1. Task-freezing has a real, enforced 20s timeout -- a failure there logs
"Freezing of tasks failed after 20.0x seconds". That message never
appears, which rules out that specific stage.
2. Device suspend/resume has the DPM watchdog. I checked its current
scope directly against commit 3339234 ("PM: sleep: Add DPM watchdog to
prepare/late/early/noirq/complete phases", landed 2026-09-25) -- it
wraps device_prepare, device_suspend_late, device_suspend_noirq,
device_resume_noirq, device_resume_early, device_complete. That's the
suspend/resume path. It doesn't appear to touch the hibernate-specific
freeze/image-creation callback path (the stage our real stall actually
hung in, based on where the log picks back up).
So: a real stall landed in exactly the stage that (as far as I can tell
from the commit itself) still has no watchdog-equivalent coverage, even
after the recent extension. I don't have a fix to offer -- this isn't a
patch submission -- but given 3339234 is recent and the scope question is
fresh, wanted to flag the gap with real evidence rather than file it as
a cold, unsubstantiated report.
Happy to provide more logs, test a patch, or file this properly via
bugzilla.kernel.org instead if that's the better venue for something at
this stage (report vs. patch) -- let me know which you'd prefer.
Thanks,
Patrick Boake
patrick@boake.ca
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