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From: Andrea Righi <andrea.righi@linux.dev>
To: "Gautham R. Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>
Cc: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>,
	Mario Limonciello <superm1@kernel.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Perry Yuan <perry.yuan@amd.com>,
	"maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)"
	<x86@kernel.org>, "Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"open list:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)"
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:ACPI" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:CPU FREQUENCY SCALING FRAMEWORK"
	<linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	changwoo@igalia.com, David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] cpufreq: amd-pstate: Drop some uses of cpudata->hw_prefcore
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 08:20:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zs7Bwh6T3HCGlR9C@gpd3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zs6w3RktAb6fJrJ+@BLRRASHENOY1.amd.com>

On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 10:38:45AM +0530, Gautham R. Shenoy wrote:
...
> > I had thought this was a malfunction in the behavior that it reflected the
> > current status, not the hardware /capability/.
> > 
> > Which one makes more sense for userspace?  In my mind the most likely
> > consumer of this information would be something a sched_ext based userspace
> > scheduler.  They would need to know whether the scheduler was using
> > preferred cores; not whether the hardware supported it.
> 
> The commandline parameter currently impacts only the fair sched-class
> tasks since the preference information gets used only during
> load-balancing.
> 
> IMO, the same should continue with sched-ext, i.e. if the user has
> explicitly disabled prefcore support via commandline, the no sched-ext
> scheduler should use the preference information to make task placement
> decisions. However, I would like to see what the sched-ext folks have
> to say. Adding some of them to the Cc list.

IMHO it makes more sense to reflect the real state of prefcore support
from a "system" perspective, more than a "hardware" perspective, so if
it's disabled via boot command line it should show disabled.

From a user-space scheduler perspective we should be fine either way, as
long as the ABI is clearly documented, since we also have access to
/proc/cmdline and we would be able to figure out if the user has
disabled it via cmdline (however, the preference is still to report the
actual system status).

Question: having prefcore enabled affects also the value of
scaling_max_freq? Like an `lscpu -e`, for example, would show a higher
max frequency for the specific preferred cores? (this is another useful
information from a sched_ext scheduler perspective).

Thanks,
-Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-28  6:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-26 21:13 [PATCH 0/8] Adjustments for preferred core detection Mario Limonciello
2024-08-26 21:13 ` [PATCH 1/8] x86/amd: Move amd_get_highest_perf() from amd.c to cppc.c Mario Limonciello
2024-08-27  6:29   ` Yuan, Perry
2024-08-27 14:08   ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-08-28  5:23   ` kernel test robot
2024-08-26 21:13 ` [PATCH 2/8] x86/amd: Rename amd_get_highest_perf() to amd_get_boost_ratio_numerator() Mario Limonciello
2024-08-27 14:42   ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-08-27 18:18     ` Mario Limonciello
2024-08-28  9:09   ` kernel test robot
2024-08-26 21:13 ` [PATCH 3/8] ACPI: CPPC: Adjust debug messages in amd_set_max_freq_ratio() to warn Mario Limonciello
2024-08-27  6:37   ` Yuan, Perry
2024-08-27 14:50   ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-08-27 18:48     ` Mario Limonciello
2024-08-26 21:13 ` [PATCH 4/8] x86/amd: Move amd_get_highest_perf() out of amd-pstate Mario Limonciello
2024-08-27  6:46   ` Yuan, Perry
2024-08-27 15:01   ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-08-26 21:13 ` [PATCH 5/8] x86/amd: Detect preferred cores in amd_get_boost_ratio_numerator() Mario Limonciello
2024-08-27 15:43   ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-08-27 19:00     ` Mario Limonciello
2024-08-26 21:13 ` [PATCH 6/8] cpufreq: amd-pstate: Merge amd_pstate_highest_perf_set() into amd_get_boost_ratio_numerator() Mario Limonciello
2024-08-27 16:52   ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-08-27 18:36     ` Mario Limonciello
2024-08-28  5:59       ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-08-27 21:31   ` kernel test robot
2024-08-26 21:13 ` [PATCH 7/8] cpufreq: amd-pstate: Optimize amd_pstate_update_limits() Mario Limonciello
2024-08-27  6:48   ` Yuan, Perry
2024-08-27 16:57   ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-08-27 19:02     ` Mario Limonciello
2024-08-26 21:13 ` [PATCH 8/8] cpufreq: amd-pstate: Drop some uses of cpudata->hw_prefcore Mario Limonciello
2024-08-27  6:53   ` Yuan, Perry
2024-08-27 17:03   ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-08-27 19:16     ` Mario Limonciello
2024-08-28  5:08       ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-08-28  6:20         ` Andrea Righi [this message]
2024-08-28 14:57           ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-08-29 12:52             ` Andrea Righi
2024-08-29 13:01               ` Mario Limonciello
2024-08-29 15:16                 ` Andrea Righi

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