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From: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Markus Mayer <code@mmayer.net>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: cpuidle and cpufreq coupling?
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 15:56:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a237a845-c24e-c1dc-c910-e09a69d631b6@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170720144530.da6bqpdvt2cvbjjs@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 07/20/2017 07:45 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 11:52:41AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org> wrote:
>>> On 20-07-17, 01:17, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:54 AM, Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a particular ARM CPU design that is drawing quite a lot of
>>>>> current upon exit from WFI, and it does so in a way even before the
>>>>> first instruction out of WFI is executed. That means we cannot influence
>>>>> directly the exit from WFI other than by changing the state in which it
>>>>> would be previously entered because of this "dead" time during which the
>>>>> internal logic needs to ramp up back where it left.
>>>>>
>>>>> A naive approach to solving this problem because we have CPU frequency
>>>>> scaling available would be to do the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> - just before entering WFI, switch to a low frequency OPP
>>>>> - enter WFI
>>>>> - upon exit from WFI, ramp up the frequency back to e.g: highest OPP
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of the parts that I am not exactly clear on would be:
>>>>>
>>>>> - would that qualify as a cpuidle governor of some kind that ties in
>>>>> which cpufreq?
>>>>> - would using cpufreq_driver_fast_switch() be an appropriate API to use
>>>>> from outside
> 
> Can your ARM part change OPP without scheduling? Because (for obvious
> reasons) the idle thread is not supposed to block.

I think it should be able to do that, but I am not sure that if I went
through the cpufreq API it would be that straight forward so I may have
to re-implement some of the frequency scaling logic outside of cpufreq
(or rather make the low-level parts some kind of library I guess).

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-20 22:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-19 22:54 cpuidle and cpufreq coupling? Florian Fainelli
2017-07-19 23:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-20  7:18   ` Viresh Kumar
2017-07-20  9:23     ` Sudeep Holla
2017-07-20 23:01       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-20  9:52     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-20 14:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-20 22:56         ` Florian Fainelli [this message]
2017-07-21  0:11           ` Vikram Mulukutla
2017-07-21  0:30             ` Florian Fainelli

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