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From: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>
To: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>
Cc: linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@kernel.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart+renesas@ideasonboard.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] Update last busy timestamp in Runtime PM autosuspend callbacks
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 06:59:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aFueZ_xfnbrQO0Wx@kekkonen.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4433c6e5-44d4-49e7-a034-aefb9a0ff538@suse.com>

Hi Oliver,

On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 03:28:45PM +0200, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> On 16.06.25 08:12, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > Folks,
> 
> Hi,
> > This set extends the inclusion of the pm_runtime_mark_last_busy() call to
> > the _autosuspend() variants of the Runtime PM functions dealing with
> > suspending devices, i.e. pm_runtime_put_autosuspend(),
> > pm_runtime_put_sync_autosuspend(), pm_runtime_autosuspend() and
> > pm_request_autosuspend(). This will introduce, for a brief amount of time,
> > unnecessary calls to pm_runtime_mark_last_busy() but this wasn't seen as
> > an issue. Also, all users of these functions, including those that did not
> > call pm_runtime_mark_last_busy(), will now include that call. Presumably
> > in the vast majority of the cases a missing call would have been a bug.
> 
> Now that I think about this, I am not sure of the logic behind this.
> It seems to me that you are making marking a device busy and dropping
> the reference synonymous.
> 
> Is the time you use to derive the likelihood determined by the start
> of IO or the end of IO?

The purpose of autosuspend is to delay device suspend in case it might be
used again soon after the point of dropping Runtime PM usage_count. Are
there cases you're aware of where pm_runtime_mark_last_busy() isn't
directly followed pm_runtime_put_autosuspend() or one of its variants and
it is desirable? Just stamping the last busy timestamp is a trivial
operation so one or two extra in a few places isn't really a problem.

-- 
Kind regards,

Sakari Ailus

      reply	other threads:[~2025-06-25  6:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-16  6:12 [PATCH v2 0/6] Update last busy timestamp in Runtime PM autosuspend callbacks Sakari Ailus
2025-06-16  6:12 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] pm: runtime: Document return values of suspend related API functions Sakari Ailus
2025-08-14 22:56   ` Brian Norris
2025-08-29  0:46     ` Brian Norris
2025-08-29 10:23       ` Sakari Ailus
2025-06-16  6:12 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] pm: runtime: Mark last busy stamp in pm_runtime_put_autosuspend() Sakari Ailus
2025-06-16  6:12 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] pm: runtime: Mark last busy stamp in pm_runtime_put_sync_autosuspend() Sakari Ailus
2025-06-16  6:12 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] pm: runtime: Mark last busy stamp in pm_runtime_autosuspend() Sakari Ailus
2025-06-16  6:12 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] pm: runtime: Mark last busy stamp in pm_request_autosuspend() Sakari Ailus
2025-06-16  6:12 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] Documentation: PM: *_autosuspend() functions update last busy time Sakari Ailus
2025-06-16 11:21 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Update last busy timestamp in Runtime PM autosuspend callbacks Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-06-16 19:20   ` Sakari Ailus
2025-06-16 20:10     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-18 19:43     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-06-25  9:15       ` Sakari Ailus
2025-06-23 13:28 ` Oliver Neukum
2025-06-25  6:59   ` Sakari Ailus [this message]

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