From: "Okanovic, Haris" <harisokn@amazon.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 7/8] cpuidle/poll_state: replace cpu_relax with smp_cond_load_relaxed
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2024 18:42:38 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aada0beae0b3479bfa311eea94a3b595bb8e5835.camel@amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r0fjtn9y.fsf@oracle.com>
On Fri, 2024-04-05 at 16:14 -0700, Ankur Arora wrote:
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> Okanovic, Haris <harisokn@amazon.com> writes:
>
> > On Thu, 2024-02-15 at 09:41 +0200, Mihai Carabas wrote:
> > > cpu_relax on ARM64 does a simple "yield". Thus we replace it with
> > > smp_cond_load_relaxed which basically does a "wfe".
> > >
> > > Suggested-by: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> > > Signed-off-by: Mihai Carabas <mihai.carabas@oracle.com>
> > > ---
> > > drivers/cpuidle/poll_state.c | 15 ++++++++++-----
> > > 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/cpuidle/poll_state.c b/drivers/cpuidle/poll_state.c
> > > index 9b6d90a72601..1e45be906e72 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/cpuidle/poll_state.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/cpuidle/poll_state.c
> > > @@ -13,6 +13,7 @@
> > > static int __cpuidle poll_idle(struct cpuidle_device *dev,
> > > struct cpuidle_driver *drv, int index)
> > > {
> > > + unsigned long ret;
> > > u64 time_start;
> > >
> > > time_start = local_clock_noinstr();
> > > @@ -26,12 +27,16 @@ static int __cpuidle poll_idle(struct cpuidle_device *dev,
> > >
> > > limit = cpuidle_poll_time(drv, dev);
> > >
> > > - while (!need_resched()) {
> > > - cpu_relax();
> > > - if (loop_count++ < POLL_IDLE_RELAX_COUNT)
> > > - continue;
> > > -
> > > + for (;;) {
> > > loop_count = 0;
> > > +
> > > + ret = smp_cond_load_relaxed(¤t_thread_info()->flags,
> > > + VAL & _TIF_NEED_RESCHED ||
> > > + loop_count++ >= POLL_IDLE_RELAX_COUNT);
> >
> > Is it necessary to repeat this 200 times with a wfe poll?
>
> The POLL_IDLE_RELAX_COUNT is there because on x86 each cpu_relax()
> iteration is much shorter.
>
> With WFE, it makes less sense.
>
> > Does kvm not implement a timeout period?
>
> Not yet, but it does become more useful after a WFE haltpoll is
> available on ARM64.
Note that kvm conditionally traps WFE and WFI based on number of host
CPU tasks. VMs will sometimes see hardware behavior - potentially
polling for a long time before entering WFI.
https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c#L459
>
> Haltpoll does have a timeout, which you should be able to tune via
> /sys/module/haltpoll/parameters/ but that, of course, won't help here.
>
> > Could you make it configurable? This patch improves certain workloads
> > on AWS Graviton instances as well, but blocks up to 6ms in 200 * 30us
> > increments before going to wfi, which is a bit excessive.
>
> Yeah, this looks like a problem. We could solve it by making it an
> architectural parameter. Though I worry about ARM platforms with
> much smaller default timeouts.
> The other possibility is using WFET in the primitive, but then we
> have that dependency and that's a bigger change.
See arm64's delay() for inspiration:
https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.9-rc2/source/arch/arm64/lib/delay.c#L26
>
> Will address this in the next version.
>
> Thanks for pointing this out.
>
> --
> ankur
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-06 18:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-15 7:41 [PATCH v4] Enable haltpoll for arm64 Mihai Carabas
2024-02-15 7:41 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] x86: Move ARCH_HAS_CPU_RELAX to arch Mihai Carabas
2024-02-15 7:41 ` [PATCH v4 2/8] x86/kvm: Move haltpoll_want() to be arch defined Mihai Carabas
2024-02-15 7:41 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] governors/haltpoll: Drop kvm_para_available() check Mihai Carabas
2024-02-15 7:41 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] arm64: Select ARCH_HAS_CPU_RELAX Mihai Carabas
2024-02-15 7:41 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] arm64: Define TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG Mihai Carabas
2024-02-15 7:41 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] cpuidle-haltpoll: ARM64 support Mihai Carabas
2024-02-26 8:30 ` Tomohiro Misono (Fujitsu)
2024-02-15 7:41 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] cpuidle/poll_state: replace cpu_relax with smp_cond_load_relaxed Mihai Carabas
2024-02-26 8:36 ` Tomohiro Misono (Fujitsu)
2024-02-28 4:36 ` Ankur Arora
2024-04-05 21:51 ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-04-05 23:14 ` Ankur Arora
2024-04-06 18:42 ` Okanovic, Haris [this message]
2024-04-08 18:46 ` Ankur Arora
2024-04-08 20:04 ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-02-15 7:41 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] cpuidle: replace with HAS_CPU_RELAX with HAS_WANTS_IDLE_POLL Mihai Carabas
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