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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Li, Aubrey" <aubrey.li@linux.intel.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>,
	"alan@linux.intel.com" <alan@linux.intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org >> Linux PM list"
	<linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] PM / Sleep: Timer quiesce in freeze state
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 10:10:05 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1411131008280.3935@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141113013707.GQ29390@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:09:47PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> But sure, we can add suspend notifiers to stuff to shut down timers; I
> should have a patch for at least one of the offenders somewhere. But I
> really think that we should not be looking at the individual timers for
> this, none of the other suspend modes care about active timers.

Fair enough.
 
> > But before we do that we want a proper explanation why the interrupt
> > fires at all. The lack of explanation cleary documents that this is a
> > 'hacked it into submission' approach.
> 
> >From what I remember its the waking interrupt that ends up in the
> timekeeping code, Li should have a backtrace somwhere.

I can imagine what happens :)

> > stomp_machine() is in 99% of all use cases a clear indicator for a
> > complete design failure.
> 
> >    So the generic idle task needs a check like this:
> > 
> >    if (idle_should_freeze())
> >       	frozen_idle();
> 
> So that is adding extra code to fairly common/hot paths just for this
> one extra special case. I tried to avoid doing that.

idle enter is not that much of a hot path, really.
 
Thanks,

	tglx

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-13  9:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-21 15:15 [RFC/PATCH] PM / Sleep: Timer quiesce in freeze state Li, Aubrey
2014-10-24 15:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-27  6:27   ` Li, Aubrey
2014-10-27  7:28     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28  4:32       ` Li, Aubrey
2014-10-28  8:29         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 22:46           ` Li, Aubrey
2014-10-29  8:21             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-29 15:09               ` Li, Aubrey
2014-10-27  7:44     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28  7:52       ` Li, Aubrey
2014-10-28  8:25         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 23:22           ` Li, Aubrey
2014-10-29  8:24             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-30  2:58               ` [PATCH v2] " Li, Aubrey
2014-11-08  2:05                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-10 11:49                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-12 21:09                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-13  1:37                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-13  2:20                     ` Li, Aubrey
2014-11-13  9:19                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-13 10:50                         ` Li, Aubrey
2014-11-13  9:10                     ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2014-11-13 10:47                       ` Li, Aubrey
2014-11-13 13:06                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-14  7:58                           ` Li, Aubrey
2014-10-28  4:39   ` [RFC/PATCH] " Li, Aubrey
2014-10-28  8:25     ` Peter Zijlstra

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