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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, rafael@kernel.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	nicolas.pitre@linaro.org, vincent.guittot@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] sched: idle: IRQ based next prediction for idle period
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 16:12:12 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1601121609460.3575@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5695133A.8090301@linaro.org>

On Tue, 12 Jan 2016, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> On 01/12/2016 03:26 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > You better implement the switching part in the cpuidle core first, i.e.
> > proper
> > callbacks when a governor is switched in/out. Then make use of this
> > switcheroo
> > right away. Doing it the other way round is just wrong.
> 
> The problem is this code is not another governor but a 'predictor' where the
> scheduler will use the information to ask the cpuidle to go to a specific idle
> state without going through the governor code, so into the governor's
> callbacks. It is on top of cpuidle. The scheduler will become the governor.
> 
> The current straightforward code, does the switch in the cpu_idle_loop
> idle_task's function:
> 
> [ ... ]
> 
> if (cpu_idle_force_poll || tick_check_broadcast_expired())
> 	cpu_idle_poll();
> else {
> 	if (sched_idle_enabled()) {
> 		int latency = pm_qos_request(PM_QOS_CPU_DMA_LATENCY);
> 		s64 duration = sched_idle_next_wakeup();
> 		sched_idle(duration, latency);
> 	} else {
> 		cpuidle_idle_call();
> 	}
> }
> 
> Due to the complexity of the code, this first step introduce a mechanism to
> predict the next event and re-use it trivially in the idle task.

This looks really wrong. Why on earth don't you implement a proper governor
and just get rid of this extra hackery?

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-12 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-06 15:22 [RFC PATCH 0/2] IRQ based next prediction Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-06 15:22 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] irq: Add a framework to measure interrupt timings Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-08 15:31   ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-12 11:42     ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-06 15:22 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] sched: idle: IRQ based next prediction for idle period Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-06 17:40   ` Nicolas Pitre
2016-01-07 15:42     ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-12 19:27       ` Nicolas Pitre
2016-01-10 22:37     ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-10 22:46       ` Nicolas Pitre
2016-01-10 22:58         ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-10 23:13           ` Nicolas Pitre
2016-01-08 15:43   ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-12 12:41     ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-12 13:42       ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-12 14:16         ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-12 14:26           ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-12 14:52             ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-12 15:12               ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2016-01-12 16:04                 ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-13  9:17                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-18 13:21     ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-20 15:41       ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-20 16:00         ` [RFC V2 0/2] IRQ based next prediction Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-20 16:00           ` [RFC V2 1/2] irq: Add a framework to measure interrupt timings Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-20 17:55             ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-21  9:25               ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-21 10:27                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-20 19:07             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-20 19:57               ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-20 20:04                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2016-01-20 20:20                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-20 20:22                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-21  9:50                 ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-21 10:08                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-21 12:38                     ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-21 20:27                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-21 13:52                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-21 14:19                     ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-21 18:56                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-22 10:15                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-21  9:26               ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-20 19:28             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-21  9:53               ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-20 16:00           ` [RFC V2 2/2] sched: idle: IRQ based next prediction for idle period Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-20 17:46             ` Nicolas Pitre
2016-01-20 18:44               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-21 10:03               ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-20 19:02             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-20 19:17               ` Nicolas Pitre
2016-01-20 19:29                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-20 19:34             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-20 19:40             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-20 19:57               ` Nicolas Pitre
2016-01-20 20:22                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-20 19:49             ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-21 13:54               ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-21 14:12                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-20 16:00           ` [RFC V2 0/2] IRQ based next prediction Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-20 16:00           ` [RFC V2 1/2] irq: Add a framework to measure interrupt timings Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-20 16:00           ` [RFC V2 2/2] sched: idle: IRQ based next prediction for idle period Daniel Lezcano
2016-01-20 20:14             ` Nicolas Pitre
2016-01-21 13:04               ` Daniel Lezcano

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