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Subject: [Bug 210993] Intel frequency scaling causes electrical noise on 10th gen CPUs
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2021 06:45:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bug-210993-137361-evUbC42sWs@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bug-210993-137361@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/>

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=210993

Zhang Rui (rui.zhang@intel.com) changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Zhang Rui (rui.zhang@intel.com) ---

(In reply to Karol Herbst from comment #0)
> One thing I noticed with my i7-10850H CPU is, that if there are cores with
> huge differences in their frequencies (e.g. one at 900 MHz another at 4.9
> GHz) some electrical becomes noticable.
> 
> The noise can be reduced by limiting the available range the CPUs frequency
> can be scaled to. Sadly the scaling_min_freq property is ignored outright
> and only matters as long as the CPU stays idle, but as long as one core gets
> some load, another one drops below scaling_min_freq, so I couldn't test if
> limiting the lower bound even helps.

Usually, if we didn't take Pe into account, the CPU frequency should not drop
below scaling_min_freq. This sounds like a bug to me.
please give turbostat output when this happens.

> 
> Putting one core at max load with stress -c 1 effectively eliminates all
> noise.

please give turbostat output when this happens.

> 
> This issue is even more annoying on my laptop as it generally runs with the
> fans turned off.
> 
> intel_pstate is used in active mode, but putting it in passive mode,
> disabling HWP or even using the ACPI freq scaling didn't really change
> anything in this regard. The powersave governor and default
> energy_performance_preference is used.
> 
> Is there anything else which could be done to mitigate the problem? Just
> putting a finger on the touchpad makes the noise quite noticeable as cores
> get scaled to the max.
> 
I'd prefer this is the fan noise rather than CPU electrical noise.

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Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-01 10:11 [Bug 210993] New: Intel frequency scaling causes electrical noise on 10th gen CPUs bugzilla-daemon
2021-01-01 10:32 ` [Bug 210993] " bugzilla-daemon
2021-01-03  6:45 ` bugzilla-daemon [this message]
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