From: Emrah Demir <ed@abdsec.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@denx.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
Matt Redfearn <matt.redfearn@imgtec.com>,
Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac@debian.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
x86@kernel.org, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] kaslr: allow kASLR to be default over Hibernation
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 12:25:19 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fd9b0950f40aaffbdaa30e9cf75a9e5b@abdsec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5j+cTYF_OGG=u4BKU5X3f6TF0FdAcES9e_8S0ajMyjhn6Q@mail.gmail.com>
On 2016-04-14 18:42, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Pavel Machek <pavel@denx.de> wrote:
>> On Thu 2016-04-14 13:14:07, Kees Cook wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Pavel Machek <pavel@denx.de> wrote:
>>> > Hi!
>>> >
>>> >> Since kASLR and Hibernation can not currently coexist at runtime
>>> >> on x86, the default behavior was to disable kASLR by default when
>>> >> CONFIG_HIBERNATION was present (to retain original behavior).
>>> >>
>>> >> The behavior of kASLR on arm64 (and soon MIPS) is to be enabled by
>>> >> default when selected at build time. Since arm64 Hibernation does not
>>> >> conflict with kASLR, this fixes the hibernation argument parsing to be
>>> >> x86-specific. Additionally, since end users want to be able to select
>>> >> kASLR on x86 by default at build time, create CONFIG_RANDOMIZE_BASE_ON
>>> >> that is present only on x86.
>>> >
>>> > I believe this is bad idea. arm64 shows that kaslr and hibernation can
>>> > coexist, and hibernation is still useful when your battery runs out.
>>>
>>> What? I'm confused -- this patch leaves the x86 behavior as-is by
>>> default but allows hibernation to work with arm64. (For example,
>>> right
>>> now, if you boot arm64 with "kaslr" kernel argument, hibernation will
>>> get needlessly disabled.)
>>
So what about making new kernel parameters. "hibernate" and
"nohibernate"
This way before decompression it will look at the parameters and depend
on parameters it will act differently
"kaslr" "nohibernate" --> kASLR will enable, no hibernate
"nokaslr" "nohibernate" --> Neither of them will work
"kaslr" "hiberante" ---> Owner has to face consequences(ARM has
advantages)
"nokaslr" "hibernate" ---> kASLR disabled and hibernate will works.
Before writing something I want to know your ideas.
-Emrah
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-15 16:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-12 22:16 [PATCH v2] kaslr: allow kASLR to be default over Hibernation Kees Cook
2016-04-14 20:01 ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-14 20:14 ` Kees Cook
2016-04-14 20:34 ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-14 22:42 ` Kees Cook
2016-04-15 9:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-04-15 13:06 ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-15 16:25 ` Emrah Demir [this message]
2016-04-16 19:58 ` Pavel Machek
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