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From: "Nuno Sá" <noname.nuno@gmail.com>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
Cc: nuno.sa@analog.com, linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, "Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Uwe Kleine-König" <ukleinek@kernel.org>,
	"Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	"Bartosz Golaszewski" <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
	"Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	"Liu Ying" <victor.liu@nxp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/17] mfd: adp5585: add support for adp5589
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 10:24:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4803aa6736c031a437517e2572cd8475e7ed18ee.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250425091351.GO18085@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>

On Fri, 2025-04-25 at 12:13 +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Lee,
> 
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 08:58:59AM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Apr 2025, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 05:38:30PM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 24 Apr 2025, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 05:18:38PM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, 15 Apr 2025, Nuno Sá via B4 Relay wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > From: Nuno Sá <nuno.sa@analog.com>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The ADP5589 is a 19 I/O port expander with built-in keypad matrix
> > > > > > > decoder,
> > > > > > > programmable logic, reset generator, and PWM generator.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > This patch adds the foundation to add support for the adp5589 gpio
> > > > > > > and pwm
> > > > > > > drivers. Most importantly, we need to differentiate between some
> > > > > > > registers addresses. It also hints to future keymap support.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Nuno Sá <nuno.sa@analog.com>
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > >  drivers/mfd/adp5585.c       | 223
> > > > > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
> > > > > > >  include/linux/mfd/adp5585.h |  57 ++++++++++-
> > > > > > >  2 files changed, 268 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > + * Bank 0 covers pins "GPIO 1/R0" to "GPIO 8/R7", numbered 0 to 7
> > > > > > > by the
> > > > > > > + * driver, bank 1 covers pins "GPIO 9/C0" to "GPIO 16/C7",
> > > > > > > numbered 8 to
> > > > > > > + * 15 and bank 3 covers pins "GPIO 17/C8" to "GPIO 19/C10",
> > > > > > > numbered 16 to 18.
> > > > > > > + */
> > > > > > > +#define ADP5589_BANK(n)			((n) >> 3)
> > > > > > > +#define ADP5589_BIT(n)			BIT((n) & 0x7)
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +struct adp5585_regs {
> > > > > > > +	unsigned int debounce_dis_a;
> > > > > > > +	unsigned int rpull_cfg_a;
> > > > > > > +	unsigned int gpo_data_a;
> > > > > > > +	unsigned int gpo_out_a;
> > > > > > > +	unsigned int gpio_dir_a;
> > > > > > > +	unsigned int gpi_stat_a;
> > > > > > > +	unsigned int pwm_cfg;
> > > > > > > +	unsigned int pwm_offt_low;
> > > > > > > +	unsigned int pwm_ont_low;
> > > > > > > +	unsigned int gen_cfg;
> > > > > > > +	unsigned int ext_cfg;
> > > > > > > +};
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +struct adp5585_info {
> > > > > > > +	const struct mfd_cell *adp5585_devs;
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Okay, we are never doing this.  Either use OF for platform
> > > > > > registration
> > > > > > or use MFD (or ACPI or PCI), but please do not pass MFD data through
> > > > > > OF.
> > > > > 
> > > > > When I upstreamed the initial driver, I modelled the different
> > > > > functions
> > > > > through child nodes in DT, with a compatible string for each child. I
> > > > > was told very strongly to remove that. We have therefore no other
> > > > > choice
> > > > > than constructing the name of the cells based on the model of the main
> > > > > device.
> > > > 
> > > > It's okay to add this information statically in this driver.  It's not
> > > > okay to then pass it through the OF API.  You can pass an identifier
> > > > through the .data attribute to match on, but we are not passing MFD cell
> > > > data through like this.
> > > 
> > > Sorry, I'm not following you. What's the issue with the .data field
> > > pointing to an instance of a structure that lists properties related to
> > > the device model ?
> > 
> > There isn't one.  By all means place any type of platform data you want
> > in there.  Similar to the information you'd find in Device Tree or the
> > old board-files type pdata.  You can even extract the platform data you
> > pass through the OF API and place it into MFD platform data.  The line
> > is being drawn on passing through one type of initialisation API with
> > another, MFD through OF in this case.  MFD cells containing device
> > registration data (including platform data!) is not itself platform
> > data.
> 
> I'm still not following you. The issue will likely go away in the next
> version anyway, as the MFD cells registration code needs to be rewritten
> to be more dynamic.

Not sure if there's any real issue but I think Lee's main concern is passing MFD
related data (struct mfd_cell) though OF (via the of table). Not sure if this is
one of the things Lee does not like but in theory, like this, you can get this
data from child platform devices for example.

> 
> > > > > > > +	const struct regmap_config *regmap_config;
> > > > > > > +	const struct adp5585_regs *regs;
> > > > > > > +	unsigned int n_devs;
> > > > > > > +	unsigned int id;
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What ID is this?  We already have platform IDs and MFD cell IDs.
> > > > > 
> > > > > That's the value of the hardware model ID read-only register, it is
> > > > > used
> > > > > as a safety check to verify that the connected device corresponds to
> > > > > the
> > > > > compatible string.
> > > > 
> > > > I suggest changing the nomenclature to be more forthcoming.
> > > > 
> > > > 'model', 'version', 'hwid', 'chipid', etc.
> > > > 
> > > > Why is it being stored?  Is it used to match on at a later date?
> > > 
> > > The adp5585_info structure contains static information the describe each
> > > device model. There's one global static const instance per device model,
> > > and they are referenced from device id structures (e.g. of_device_id).
> > > The driver gets an info pointer corresponding to the model reported by
> > > the platform firmware (e.g. DT). It reads the device ID from the device
> > > at probe time, and compares it with the value stored in the structure as
> > > a safety check to ensure there's no mismatch.
> > 
> > I think the current implementation (as a whole, not just the IDs) needs
> > a rethink.  Very few attributes are changing here, both between the 2
> > platforms and the several variants you're trying to support, leading to
> > masses of repetition.
> > 
> > Looking at the static configuration here, this is starting to look like
> > 2 pieces of hardware with the only variation within each being the
> > default register values.  Is that a correct assumption?
> 
> The variants of the ADP5585 differ mainly by how they handle the default
> configuration of pull-up and pull-down resistors. The consequence on the
> driver side is limited to default register values, yes.
> 
> ADP5589 differs more significantly from the ADP5585. Differences between
> the ADP5589 variants are small as far as I understand (datasheets are
> public, should you want to have a look).
> 
> > If so, does
> > mean all of this added complexity is just to configure a few register
> > values such that the two platforms can be used for different things?  Or
> > are these really 6 true hardware variants of one another?
> 
> They are different physical chips with different product numbers.
> 
> > Either way, this approach doesn't scale.  Instead of multiplying the
> > amount of platforms / variants together and creating that number of
> > static structs, I'd suggest using templating and only adapting what
> > actually changes.
> > 
> > For instance, the following attributes in 'struct regmap_config' never
> > change; reg_bits, val_bits, and cache_type.  And max_register only
> > changes between the 2 hardware platforms.  The reg_defaults_raw values
> > can be changed in a switch statement.
> 
> All the fields of the adp5585_info structure that you would like to
> dynamically set would then need to be stored in the adp5585 structure.
> The would essentially trade static const data for dynamic data and more
> code. Is that a personal coding style preference, or are there clear
> advantages ?
> 
> > Same goes for 'struct adp5585_info'.  Only regmap_config changes between
> > variants.  Everything else is exactly the same.
> 
> I assume this comment relates only to the different variants of the info
> structure for the same model (e.g. ADP5585 or ADP5589). There are more
> differences between the ADP5585 and ADP5589 entries.
> 
> > So, with the use of a
> > few of templates and a couple of succinct switch cases, you can control
> > all of the differentiation you need.  And for every variant you wish to
> > add, it's a couple of extra lines rather than many, leading to a
> > much more scaleable implementation.
> 
> That also seems like a personal coding style preference :-) Adding a new
> compatible variant with the existing approach only requires adding an
> instance of the info structure, while your proposal would require
> changes in multiple places. It seems more work to me (from a personal
> preference point of view).
> 
> Of course, if the new variant requires developing abstractions that
> don't exist (such as supporting large differences in the registers
> layout as needed for the ADP5589), refactoring of the code will always
> be required. This seems a bit of a theoretical concern though, as I'm
> not aware of any other chip that would require such development.
> 
> In any case, let's see how the next version will look like, after
> reworking the MFD cells registration code. Maybe it will make everybody
> happy :-)

Let's see! There's a lot to cover for v3 :sweat_smile:.I think I got the general
idea that Lee proposed. I'll probably try it so we can have a taste of it in v3.
If needed we can then rollback (not ideal, but that's life).

- Nuno Sá


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-04-28  9:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-15 14:49 [PATCH v2 00/17] mfd: adp5585: support keymap events and drop legacy Input driver Nuno Sá via B4 Relay
2025-04-15 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] dt-bindings: mfd: adp5585: ease on the required properties Nuno Sá via B4 Relay
2025-04-21  8:56   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-21 12:12     ` Nuno Sá
2025-04-21 12:29       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-21 12:45         ` Nuno Sá
2025-04-21 18:57   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-04-15 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] mfd: adp5585: enable oscilator during probe Nuno Sá via B4 Relay
2025-04-21  8:57   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-21 12:14     ` Nuno Sá
2025-04-21 22:03       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-22  7:50         ` Nuno Sá
2025-04-15 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] pwm: adp5585: don't control OSC_EN in the pwm driver Nuno Sá via B4 Relay
2025-04-15 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] mfd: adp5585: make use of MFD_CELL_NAME() Nuno Sá via B4 Relay
2025-04-21  9:03   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-24 15:55   ` Lee Jones
2025-04-15 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] dt-bindings: mfd: adp5585: document adp5589 I/O expander Nuno Sá via B4 Relay
2025-04-21  9:07   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-21 18:59   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-04-15 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] mfd: adp5585: add support for adp5589 Nuno Sá via B4 Relay
2025-04-21  9:15   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-21 12:21     ` Nuno Sá
2025-04-21 22:06       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-22  7:51         ` Nuno Sá
2025-04-24 16:01         ` Lee Jones
2025-04-24 16:18   ` Lee Jones
2025-04-24 16:30     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-24 16:38       ` Lee Jones
2025-04-24 19:39         ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-25  7:58           ` Lee Jones
2025-04-25  9:13             ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-25  9:23               ` Lee Jones
2025-04-28  9:24               ` Nuno Sá [this message]
2025-04-15 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] gpio: adp5585: add support for the ad5589 expander Nuno Sá via B4 Relay
2025-04-17 12:27   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2025-04-21  9:23   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-21 12:22     ` Nuno Sá
2025-04-15 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] pwm: adp5585: add support for adp5589 Nuno Sá via B4 Relay
2025-04-15 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] dt-bindings: mfd: adp5585: add properties for input events Nuno Sá via B4 Relay
2025-04-21  9:28   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-21 12:24     ` Nuno Sá
2025-04-29 15:03   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-04-15 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] mfd: adp5585: add support for key events Nuno Sá via B4 Relay
2025-04-21  9:33   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-21 12:32     ` Nuno Sá
2025-04-21 22:13       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-24 16:07     ` Lee Jones
2025-04-24 16:24       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-24 16:28         ` Lee Jones
2025-04-15 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] gpio: adp5585: support gpi events Nuno Sá via B4 Relay
2025-04-17 12:28   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2025-04-15 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] Input: adp5585: Add Analog Devices ADP5585/89 support Nuno Sá via B4 Relay
2025-04-19  2:44   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2025-04-21  9:35   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-21 12:33     ` Nuno Sá
2025-04-15 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] Input: adp5589: remove the driver Nuno Sá via B4 Relay
2025-04-19  2:45   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2025-04-21  9:40   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-21 12:34     ` Nuno Sá
2025-04-15 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] mfd: adp5585: support getting vdd regulator Nuno Sá via B4 Relay
2025-04-21  9:48   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-21 12:38     ` Nuno Sá
2025-04-21 22:09       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-22  8:12         ` Nuno Sá
2025-04-15 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] dt-bindings: mfd: adp5585: document reset gpio Nuno Sá via B4 Relay
2025-04-21  9:36   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-15 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] mfd: adp5585: add support for a reset pin Nuno Sá via B4 Relay
2025-04-21  9:46   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-21 12:42     ` Nuno Sá
2025-04-21 22:10       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-15 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] pwm: adp5585: make sure to include mod_devicetable.h Nuno Sá via B4 Relay
2025-04-21  9:50   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-15 15:56 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] mfd: adp5585: support keymap events and drop legacy Input driver Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-21 10:08   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-04-16  9:02 ` Liu Ying
2025-04-16 10:03   ` Nuno Sá
2025-05-01 12:00 ` Lee Jones
2025-05-01 14:09   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-05-02  7:13     ` Lee Jones
2025-05-02  7:35       ` Nuno Sá
2025-05-02  8:30         ` Lee Jones

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