* [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 24/51] pwm: sifive: Fix PWM algorithm and clarify inverted compare behavior
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@ 2025-08-04 0:36 ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-04 10:38 ` Uwe Kleine-König
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Sasha Levin @ 2025-08-04 0:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: patches, stable
Cc: Nylon Chen, Zong Li, Vincent Chen, Uwe Kleine-König,
Sasha Levin, paul.walmsley, samuel.holland, linux-pwm,
linux-riscv
From: Nylon Chen <nylon.chen@sifive.com>
[ Upstream commit 7dbc4432ea6bf9d709391eb57f1e9fb44e99845a ]
The `frac` variable represents the pulse inactive time, and the result
of this algorithm is the pulse active time. Therefore, we must reverse
the result.
Although the SiFive Reference Manual states "pwms >= pwmcmpX -> HIGH",
the hardware behavior is inverted due to a fixed XNOR with 0. As a result,
the pwmcmp register actually defines the low (inactive) portion of the pulse.
The reference is SiFive FU740-C000 Manual[0]
Link: https://sifive.cdn.prismic.io/sifive/1a82e600-1f93-4f41-b2d8-86ed8b16acba_fu740-c000-manual-v1p6.pdf [0]
Co-developed-by: Zong Li <zong.li@sifive.com>
Signed-off-by: Zong Li <zong.li@sifive.com>
Co-developed-by: Vincent Chen <vincent.chen@sifive.com>
Signed-off-by: Vincent Chen <vincent.chen@sifive.com>
Signed-off-by: Nylon Chen <nylon.chen@sifive.com>
Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20250529035341.51736-3-nylon.chen@sifive.com
Signed-off-by: Uwe Kleine-König <ukleinek@kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
---
LLM Generated explanations, may be completely bogus:
**Backport Status: YES**
This commit should be backported to stable kernel trees. Here's my
extensive analysis:
## Critical Bug Fix Analysis
1. **The commit fixes a significant functional bug** - The PWM algorithm
was fundamentally broken:
- The `frac` variable was incorrectly used (lines 158-161 in
original, now 168-171)
- The driver was writing the duty cycle value directly to PWMCMP
register (line 193), but the hardware actually expects the
**inactive** (low) time
- This results in inverted PWM output behavior where users get the
opposite duty cycle from what they request
2. **Hardware behavior discrepancy** - The commit reveals and fixes a
critical mismatch between documentation and actual hardware:
- The documentation states "pwms >= pwmcmpX -> HIGH"
- But the hardware has a hard-tied XNOR with 0 that inverts this
behavior
- The driver now correctly compensates for this hardware quirk
3. **User-visible impact**:
- **In `pwm_sifive_get_state()`**: The driver now correctly inverts
the value read from hardware (lines 115->122-126)
- **In `pwm_sifive_apply()`**: The driver now inverts the duty cycle
before writing to hardware (lines 162->171)
- **Polarity change**: Changed from `PWM_POLARITY_INVERSED` to
`PWM_POLARITY_NORMAL` (lines 126->137, 142->152)
- **Documentation fix**: Updated comment from "cannot generate 100%
duty" to "cannot generate 0% duty" (lines 11->27, 160->170)
4. **The fix is relatively small and contained**:
- Changes are isolated to the PWM algorithm logic
- No architectural changes or new features
- Simple mathematical inversion: `duty = (1U << PWM_SIFIVE_CMPWIDTH)
- 1 - inactive`
5. **No risky side effects**:
- The change is straightforward and mathematically correct
- Doesn't affect other subsystems
- Maintains the same register interface
6. **Affects all SiFive PWM users**:
- Any system using SiFive FU540 or FU740 SoCs would have incorrect
PWM output
- This includes various RISC-V development boards and embedded
systems
- Users would get inverted duty cycles, potentially breaking motor
controls, LED dimming, etc.
7. **Clear documentation reference**:
- The commit references the official SiFive FU740-C000 Manual
- Provides clear explanation of the hardware behavior mismatch
The bug causes PWM outputs to be inverted from user expectations, which
is a significant functional issue that would affect any system relying
on proper PWM behavior for motor control, LED dimming, or other PWM-
dependent functionality. The fix is clean, minimal, and addresses a
clear hardware/software mismatch that exists in production systems.
drivers/pwm/pwm-sifive.c | 39 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------
1 file changed, 31 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
diff --git a/drivers/pwm/pwm-sifive.c b/drivers/pwm/pwm-sifive.c
index 393a4b97fc19..e87b16e10daa 100644
--- a/drivers/pwm/pwm-sifive.c
+++ b/drivers/pwm/pwm-sifive.c
@@ -4,11 +4,28 @@
* For SiFive's PWM IP block documentation please refer Chapter 14 of
* Reference Manual : https://static.dev.sifive.com/FU540-C000-v1.0.pdf
*
+ * PWM output inversion: According to the SiFive Reference manual
+ * the output of each comparator is high whenever the value of pwms is
+ * greater than or equal to the corresponding pwmcmpX[Reference Manual].
+ *
+ * Figure 29 in the same manual shows that the pwmcmpXcenter bit is
+ * hard-tied to 0 (XNOR), which effectively inverts the comparison so that
+ * the output goes HIGH when `pwms < pwmcmpX`.
+ *
+ * In other words, each pwmcmp register actually defines the **inactive**
+ * (low) period of the pulse, not the active time exactly opposite to what
+ * the documentation text implies.
+ *
+ * To compensate, this driver always **inverts** the duty value when reading
+ * or writing pwmcmp registers , so that users interact with a conventional
+ * **active-high** PWM interface.
+ *
+ *
* Limitations:
* - When changing both duty cycle and period, we cannot prevent in
* software that the output might produce a period with mixed
* settings (new period length and old duty cycle).
- * - The hardware cannot generate a 100% duty cycle.
+ * - The hardware cannot generate a 0% duty cycle.
* - The hardware generates only inverted output.
*/
#include <linux/clk.h>
@@ -109,9 +126,14 @@ static int pwm_sifive_get_state(struct pwm_chip *chip, struct pwm_device *pwm,
struct pwm_state *state)
{
struct pwm_sifive_ddata *ddata = pwm_sifive_chip_to_ddata(chip);
- u32 duty, val;
+ u32 duty, val, inactive;
- duty = readl(ddata->regs + PWM_SIFIVE_PWMCMP(pwm->hwpwm));
+ inactive = readl(ddata->regs + PWM_SIFIVE_PWMCMP(pwm->hwpwm));
+ /*
+ * PWM hardware uses 'inactive' counts in pwmcmp, so invert to get actual duty.
+ * Here, 'inactive' is the low time and we compute duty as max_count - inactive.
+ */
+ duty = (1U << PWM_SIFIVE_CMPWIDTH) - 1 - inactive;
state->enabled = duty > 0;
@@ -122,7 +144,7 @@ static int pwm_sifive_get_state(struct pwm_chip *chip, struct pwm_device *pwm,
state->period = ddata->real_period;
state->duty_cycle =
(u64)duty * ddata->real_period >> PWM_SIFIVE_CMPWIDTH;
- state->polarity = PWM_POLARITY_INVERSED;
+ state->polarity = PWM_POLARITY_NORMAL;
return 0;
}
@@ -136,9 +158,9 @@ static int pwm_sifive_apply(struct pwm_chip *chip, struct pwm_device *pwm,
unsigned long long num;
bool enabled;
int ret = 0;
- u32 frac;
+ u32 frac, inactive;
- if (state->polarity != PWM_POLARITY_INVERSED)
+ if (state->polarity != PWM_POLARITY_NORMAL)
return -EINVAL;
cur_state = pwm->state;
@@ -156,8 +178,9 @@ static int pwm_sifive_apply(struct pwm_chip *chip, struct pwm_device *pwm,
*/
num = (u64)duty_cycle * (1U << PWM_SIFIVE_CMPWIDTH);
frac = DIV64_U64_ROUND_CLOSEST(num, state->period);
- /* The hardware cannot generate a 100% duty cycle */
+ /* The hardware cannot generate a 0% duty cycle */
frac = min(frac, (1U << PWM_SIFIVE_CMPWIDTH) - 1);
+ inactive = (1U << PWM_SIFIVE_CMPWIDTH) - 1 - frac;
mutex_lock(&ddata->lock);
if (state->period != ddata->approx_period) {
@@ -189,7 +212,7 @@ static int pwm_sifive_apply(struct pwm_chip *chip, struct pwm_device *pwm,
}
}
- writel(frac, ddata->regs + PWM_SIFIVE_PWMCMP(pwm->hwpwm));
+ writel(inactive, ddata->regs + PWM_SIFIVE_PWMCMP(pwm->hwpwm));
if (!state->enabled)
clk_disable(ddata->clk);
--
2.39.5
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* Re: [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 24/51] pwm: sifive: Fix PWM algorithm and clarify inverted compare behavior
2025-08-04 0:36 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 24/51] pwm: sifive: Fix PWM algorithm and clarify inverted compare behavior Sasha Levin
@ 2025-08-04 10:38 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2025-08-16 13:08 ` Sasha Levin
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Kleine-König @ 2025-08-04 10:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sasha Levin
Cc: patches, stable, Nylon Chen, Zong Li, Vincent Chen, paul.walmsley,
samuel.holland, linux-pwm, linux-riscv
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Hello,
On Sun, Aug 03, 2025 at 08:36:16PM -0400, Sasha Levin wrote:
> From: Nylon Chen <nylon.chen@sifive.com>
>
> [ Upstream commit 7dbc4432ea6bf9d709391eb57f1e9fb44e99845a ]
>
> The `frac` variable represents the pulse inactive time, and the result
> of this algorithm is the pulse active time. Therefore, we must reverse
> the result.
>
> Although the SiFive Reference Manual states "pwms >= pwmcmpX -> HIGH",
> the hardware behavior is inverted due to a fixed XNOR with 0. As a result,
> the pwmcmp register actually defines the low (inactive) portion of the pulse.
>
> The reference is SiFive FU740-C000 Manual[0]
>
> Link: https://sifive.cdn.prismic.io/sifive/1a82e600-1f93-4f41-b2d8-86ed8b16acba_fu740-c000-manual-v1p6.pdf [0]
>
> Co-developed-by: Zong Li <zong.li@sifive.com>
> Signed-off-by: Zong Li <zong.li@sifive.com>
> Co-developed-by: Vincent Chen <vincent.chen@sifive.com>
> Signed-off-by: Vincent Chen <vincent.chen@sifive.com>
> Signed-off-by: Nylon Chen <nylon.chen@sifive.com>
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20250529035341.51736-3-nylon.chen@sifive.com
> Signed-off-by: Uwe Kleine-König <ukleinek@kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
> ---
>
> LLM Generated explanations, may be completely bogus:
>
> **Backport Status: YES**
>
> This commit should be backported to stable kernel trees. Here's my
> extensive analysis:
>
> ## Critical Bug Fix Analysis
>
> 1. **The commit fixes a significant functional bug** - The PWM algorithm
> was fundamentally broken:
> - The `frac` variable was incorrectly used (lines 158-161 in
> original, now 168-171)
> - The driver was writing the duty cycle value directly to PWMCMP
> register (line 193), but the hardware actually expects the
> **inactive** (low) time
> - This results in inverted PWM output behavior where users get the
> opposite duty cycle from what they request
>
> 2. **Hardware behavior discrepancy** - The commit reveals and fixes a
> critical mismatch between documentation and actual hardware:
> - The documentation states "pwms >= pwmcmpX -> HIGH"
> - But the hardware has a hard-tied XNOR with 0 that inverts this
> behavior
> - The driver now correctly compensates for this hardware quirk
>
> 3. **User-visible impact**:
> - **In `pwm_sifive_get_state()`**: The driver now correctly inverts
> the value read from hardware (lines 115->122-126)
> - **In `pwm_sifive_apply()`**: The driver now inverts the duty cycle
> before writing to hardware (lines 162->171)
> - **Polarity change**: Changed from `PWM_POLARITY_INVERSED` to
> `PWM_POLARITY_NORMAL` (lines 126->137, 142->152)
> - **Documentation fix**: Updated comment from "cannot generate 100%
> duty" to "cannot generate 0% duty" (lines 11->27, 160->170)
>
> 4. **The fix is relatively small and contained**:
> - Changes are isolated to the PWM algorithm logic
> - No architectural changes or new features
> - Simple mathematical inversion: `duty = (1U << PWM_SIFIVE_CMPWIDTH)
> - 1 - inactive`
>
> 5. **No risky side effects**:
> - The change is straightforward and mathematically correct
> - Doesn't affect other subsystems
> - Maintains the same register interface
>
> 6. **Affects all SiFive PWM users**:
> - Any system using SiFive FU540 or FU740 SoCs would have incorrect
> PWM output
> - This includes various RISC-V development boards and embedded
> systems
> - Users would get inverted duty cycles, potentially breaking motor
> controls, LED dimming, etc.
>
> 7. **Clear documentation reference**:
> - The commit references the official SiFive FU740-C000 Manual
> - Provides clear explanation of the hardware behavior mismatch
>
> The bug causes PWM outputs to be inverted from user expectations, which
> is a significant functional issue that would affect any system relying
> on proper PWM behavior for motor control, LED dimming, or other PWM-
> dependent functionality. The fix is clean, minimal, and addresses a
> clear hardware/software mismatch that exists in production systems.
What your LLM missed is that the device trees using this PWM relied on
this "bug" and so this commit should be applied either together with
f4bcf818e5d6 ("riscv: dts: sifive: unleashed/unmatched: Remove PWM
controlled LED's active-low properties") or not at all.
Given that there might be device trees in use that are not in mainline
and that break in the same way without a possiblity for us to fix that I
tend to prefer not to backport this breaking change to stable.
Best regards
Uwe
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* Re: [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 24/51] pwm: sifive: Fix PWM algorithm and clarify inverted compare behavior
2025-08-04 10:38 ` Uwe Kleine-König
@ 2025-08-16 13:08 ` Sasha Levin
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Sasha Levin @ 2025-08-16 13:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Uwe Kleine-König
Cc: patches, stable, Nylon Chen, Zong Li, Vincent Chen, paul.walmsley,
samuel.holland, linux-pwm, linux-riscv
On Mon, Aug 04, 2025 at 12:38:15PM +0200, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
>Hello,
>
>On Sun, Aug 03, 2025 at 08:36:16PM -0400, Sasha Levin wrote:
>> From: Nylon Chen <nylon.chen@sifive.com>
>>
>> [ Upstream commit 7dbc4432ea6bf9d709391eb57f1e9fb44e99845a ]
>>
>> The `frac` variable represents the pulse inactive time, and the result
>> of this algorithm is the pulse active time. Therefore, we must reverse
>> the result.
>>
>> Although the SiFive Reference Manual states "pwms >= pwmcmpX -> HIGH",
>> the hardware behavior is inverted due to a fixed XNOR with 0. As a result,
>> the pwmcmp register actually defines the low (inactive) portion of the pulse.
>>
>> The reference is SiFive FU740-C000 Manual[0]
>>
>> Link: https://sifive.cdn.prismic.io/sifive/1a82e600-1f93-4f41-b2d8-86ed8b16acba_fu740-c000-manual-v1p6.pdf [0]
>>
>> Co-developed-by: Zong Li <zong.li@sifive.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Zong Li <zong.li@sifive.com>
>> Co-developed-by: Vincent Chen <vincent.chen@sifive.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Vincent Chen <vincent.chen@sifive.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Nylon Chen <nylon.chen@sifive.com>
>> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20250529035341.51736-3-nylon.chen@sifive.com
>> Signed-off-by: Uwe Kleine-König <ukleinek@kernel.org>
>> Signed-off-by: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
>> ---
>>
>> LLM Generated explanations, may be completely bogus:
>>
>> **Backport Status: YES**
>>
>> This commit should be backported to stable kernel trees. Here's my
>> extensive analysis:
>>
>> ## Critical Bug Fix Analysis
>>
>> 1. **The commit fixes a significant functional bug** - The PWM algorithm
>> was fundamentally broken:
>> - The `frac` variable was incorrectly used (lines 158-161 in
>> original, now 168-171)
>> - The driver was writing the duty cycle value directly to PWMCMP
>> register (line 193), but the hardware actually expects the
>> **inactive** (low) time
>> - This results in inverted PWM output behavior where users get the
>> opposite duty cycle from what they request
>>
>> 2. **Hardware behavior discrepancy** - The commit reveals and fixes a
>> critical mismatch between documentation and actual hardware:
>> - The documentation states "pwms >= pwmcmpX -> HIGH"
>> - But the hardware has a hard-tied XNOR with 0 that inverts this
>> behavior
>> - The driver now correctly compensates for this hardware quirk
>>
>> 3. **User-visible impact**:
>> - **In `pwm_sifive_get_state()`**: The driver now correctly inverts
>> the value read from hardware (lines 115->122-126)
>> - **In `pwm_sifive_apply()`**: The driver now inverts the duty cycle
>> before writing to hardware (lines 162->171)
>> - **Polarity change**: Changed from `PWM_POLARITY_INVERSED` to
>> `PWM_POLARITY_NORMAL` (lines 126->137, 142->152)
>> - **Documentation fix**: Updated comment from "cannot generate 100%
>> duty" to "cannot generate 0% duty" (lines 11->27, 160->170)
>>
>> 4. **The fix is relatively small and contained**:
>> - Changes are isolated to the PWM algorithm logic
>> - No architectural changes or new features
>> - Simple mathematical inversion: `duty = (1U << PWM_SIFIVE_CMPWIDTH)
>> - 1 - inactive`
>>
>> 5. **No risky side effects**:
>> - The change is straightforward and mathematically correct
>> - Doesn't affect other subsystems
>> - Maintains the same register interface
>>
>> 6. **Affects all SiFive PWM users**:
>> - Any system using SiFive FU540 or FU740 SoCs would have incorrect
>> PWM output
>> - This includes various RISC-V development boards and embedded
>> systems
>> - Users would get inverted duty cycles, potentially breaking motor
>> controls, LED dimming, etc.
>>
>> 7. **Clear documentation reference**:
>> - The commit references the official SiFive FU740-C000 Manual
>> - Provides clear explanation of the hardware behavior mismatch
>>
>> The bug causes PWM outputs to be inverted from user expectations, which
>> is a significant functional issue that would affect any system relying
>> on proper PWM behavior for motor control, LED dimming, or other PWM-
>> dependent functionality. The fix is clean, minimal, and addresses a
>> clear hardware/software mismatch that exists in production systems.
>
>What your LLM missed is that the device trees using this PWM relied on
>this "bug" and so this commit should be applied either together with
>f4bcf818e5d6 ("riscv: dts: sifive: unleashed/unmatched: Remove PWM
>controlled LED's active-low properties") or not at all.
>
>Given that there might be device trees in use that are not in mainline
>and that break in the same way without a possiblity for us to fix that I
>tend to prefer not to backport this breaking change to stable.
Ack, I'll drop it. Thanks!
--
Thanks,
Sasha
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