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From: "Tim Grant" <tgrant@net-itech.com>
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: Hard drive Reliability?
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 09:32:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <006601c43e6e$edad2a90$180aa8c0@johnny> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0405200801180.19972-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>


Has anyone tried to Maxline drives from Maxtor?  I know the MTBF for
most IDE hard drives is calculated for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, and
we all know none of us are doing that.  We meet with Maxtor and they
were speaking of their new Maxline drive which is intended for 24 hours
a day, 365 days a week.  We just started using them in our products, but
it's a little early to see if they're going to be as problematic as the
other Maxtor drives we used.


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Tim Grant

-----Original Message-----
From: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org
[mailto:linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Mark Hahn
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 8:15 AM
To: John Lange
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Hard drive Reliability?


> I don't seem to see a footnote that says "50% of drives will fail in a

> year or less..."

properly handled, especially by the hands between you and the factory,
properly installed (with adequate airflow), they certainly won't.

> Going by the product sheet and the fact the drive has a 3 year 
> warranty you'd think you would be relatively safe. Nope...

you imply that vendors are knowingly shipping half their product that
will die within even a 1yr warranty period, and then have 
to be replaced at significant cost to the vendor.  I really can't 
see why you think they're so stupid!  the alternate explanation, which
fits the data (such as it is) perfectly well is that the 
supply chain damages the drives.

> away. Shipping new drives and having a support call to install them 
> can get very expensive not to mention down time.

so install a hot spare or two or three.

> senseless in any office with more than about 2 desktops. LTSP ( 
> www.ltsp.org ) all the way!

actually, I considered using ltsp when I built my diskless cluster, but
once I looked, I could find no real value-add there.  instead, I run
export an unmodified RH dist as a readonly root, boot with 
the usual dhcp/pxe/tftp tools, and have /var in tmpfs.

regards, mark hahn.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-05-20 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-19 19:58 Hard drive Reliability? John Lange
2004-05-19 20:49 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-05-19 21:28   ` Sevatio
2004-05-19 22:02     ` John Lange
2004-05-19 22:42       ` jim
2004-05-19 22:26     ` Guy
2004-05-19 23:53       ` maarten van den Berg
2004-05-20  0:49         ` TJ Harrell
2004-05-20  1:13           ` berk walker
2004-05-20  6:39           ` Måns Rullgård
2004-05-19 23:44     ` maarten van den Berg
2004-05-19 22:04 ` berk walker
2004-05-19 22:18 ` Guy
2004-05-19 23:40   ` maarten van den Berg
2004-05-20  0:34     ` Guy
2004-05-20  1:46       ` John Lange
2004-05-20 22:27       ` Russ Price
2004-05-20 15:51     ` Sevatio
2004-05-20  4:39 ` Mark Hahn
2004-05-20  7:15   ` John Lange
2004-05-20 12:15     ` Mark Hahn
2004-05-20 13:26       ` jim
2004-05-20 13:31       ` John Lange
2004-05-20 14:20         ` Mark Hahn
2004-05-20 13:32       ` Tim Grant [this message]
2004-05-20 14:38         ` Robin Bowes
2004-05-22  5:15           ` Brad Campbell
2004-05-24 13:25             ` Frank van Maarseveen
2004-05-24 18:35               ` Brad Campbell
2004-05-24 22:38                 ` maarten van den Berg
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-05-20 13:54 Cress, Andrew R

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