From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Tim Grant" Subject: RE: Hard drive Reliability? Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 09:32:41 -0400 Sender: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org Message-ID: <006601c43e6e$edad2a90$180aa8c0@johnny> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-raid.ids Has anyone tried to Maxline drives from Maxtor? I know the MTBF for most IDE hard drives is calculated for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, and we all know none of us are doing that. We meet with Maxtor and they were speaking of their new Maxline drive which is intended for 24 hours a day, 365 days a week. We just started using them in our products, but it's a little early to see if they're going to be as problematic as the other Maxtor drives we used. -- Tim Grant -----Original Message----- From: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Mark Hahn Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 8:15 AM To: John Lange Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Hard drive Reliability? > I don't seem to see a footnote that says "50% of drives will fail in a > year or less..." properly handled, especially by the hands between you and the factory, properly installed (with adequate airflow), they certainly won't. > Going by the product sheet and the fact the drive has a 3 year > warranty you'd think you would be relatively safe. Nope... you imply that vendors are knowingly shipping half their product that will die within even a 1yr warranty period, and then have to be replaced at significant cost to the vendor. I really can't see why you think they're so stupid! the alternate explanation, which fits the data (such as it is) perfectly well is that the supply chain damages the drives. > away. Shipping new drives and having a support call to install them > can get very expensive not to mention down time. so install a hot spare or two or three. > senseless in any office with more than about 2 desktops. LTSP ( > www.ltsp.org ) all the way! actually, I considered using ltsp when I built my diskless cluster, but once I looked, I could find no real value-add there. instead, I run export an unmodified RH dist as a readonly root, boot with the usual dhcp/pxe/tftp tools, and have /var in tmpfs. regards, mark hahn. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html