Sync rates?

Sync rates?

[me]

Hi,

I added a 120GB drive to a degraded raid 1 drive (well it's really 5
partitions all raid 1).  I started last night (maybe 8pm) at this rate it
will be done syncing in just under 24 hours.  Is this sync rate expected?  I
would have thought 120GB wouldn't have taken that long, I'm running 7200RPM
IDE drives on separate controllers, with an Athlon 3200.

Thanks
Jay

Re: Sync rates?

[Måns Rullgård]

<me@heyjay.com> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I added a 120GB drive to a degraded raid 1 drive (well it's really 5
> partitions all raid 1).  I started last night (maybe 8pm) at this rate it
> will be done syncing in just under 24 hours.  Is this sync rate expected?  I
> would have thought 120GB wouldn't have taken that long, I'm running 7200RPM
> IDE drives on separate controllers, with an Athlon 3200.

My raid1 over two 240GB raid0 arrays sync in about 3 hours.  Maybe you
are syncing all 5 partitions at the same time.  That would be likely
to cause a slowdown since the disk would be seeking quite a bit.

-- 
Måns Rullgård
mru@kth.se

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Re: Sync rates?

[Paul Clements]

Måns Rullgård wrote:
> <me@heyjay.com> writes:

>>will be done syncing in just under 24 hours.  Is this sync rate expected?  I

Have you checked /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_min and _max ? These may 
need to be increased if you want the resync to be faster.


> Maybe you are syncing all 5 partitions at the same time.

Except the driver won't let that happen. It serializes resync of arrays 
that share the same physical components.

--
Paul


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Re: Sync rates?

[me]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Clements" <paul.clements@steeleye.com>
To: <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: Sync rates?


Måns Rullgård wrote:
> <me@heyjay.com> writes:

>>will be done syncing in just under 24 hours.  Is this sync rate expected?
I

Have you checked /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_min and _max ? These may
need to be increased if you want the resync to be faster.
------


platinum:~# cat /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_min
1000
platinum:~# cat /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_max
200000

Are these acceptable?

Jay

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Re: Sync rates?

[Paul Clements]

me@heyjay.com wrote:

> platinum:~# cat /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_min
> 1000
> platinum:~# cat /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_max
> 200000
 > Are these acceptable?

Well, those values are in KB/s. And, your resync rate is about:

120000000 / ( 24 * 60 * 60 ) = 1388 KB/s

if my calculations are correct. I'd try bumping the min value up to say 
10000 and see if that speeds things up. Is there much I/O activity on 
the system? That will slow down a resync quite a bit, too.

--
Paul

Re: Sync rates?

[me]

My machine was idle during the rebuild.  When I say idle, I mean no one
logged in, no user processes running (except me sshed into the box), no
database, no I/O other than the rebuild.

While the rebuild was going on my system was debilitated, totally slow to
respond to ssh commands

Jay
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Clements" <paul.clements@steeleye.com>
To: <me@heyjay.com>
Cc: <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: Sync rates?


> me@heyjay.com wrote:
>
> > platinum:~# cat /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_min
> > 1000
> > platinum:~# cat /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_max
> > 200000
>  > Are these acceptable?
>
> Well, those values are in KB/s. And, your resync rate is about:
>
> 120000000 / ( 24 * 60 * 60 ) = 1388 KB/s
>
> if my calculations are correct. I'd try bumping the min value up to say
> 10000 and see if that speeds things up. Is there much I/O activity on
> the system? That will slow down a resync quite a bit, too.
>
> --
> Paul
>
>

Re: Sync rates?

[Eric Wood]

----- Original Message ----- >
> platinum:~# cat /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_min
> 1000
> platinum:~# cat /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_max
> 200000
> 
> Are these acceptable?
> 
> Jay

# echo -n 500000 > /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_max

That'll speed it up.

Re: Sync rates?

[me]

>> Hi,
>>
>> I added a 120GB drive to a degraded raid 1 drive (well it's really 5
>> partitions all raid 1).  I started last night (maybe 8pm) at this rate it
>> will be done syncing in just under 24 hours.  Is this sync rate expected?
I
>> would have thought 120GB wouldn't have taken that long, I'm running
7200RPM
>> IDE drives on separate controllers, with an Athlon 3200.

>My raid1 over two 240GB raid0 arrays sync in about 3 hours.  Maybe you
>are syncing all 5 partitions at the same time.  That would be likely
>to cause a slowdown since the disk would be seeking quite a bit.

Indeed I did sync them all at the same time.  But when I cat /proc/mdstat
four partitions were delaying syncing while on performed a sync

Jay

Re: Sync rates?

[me]

Weird, seems as if the faster the processor the longer the test takes.  I
ran it on 2 other machines, in addition to the one with raid.  Here are the
results.  What type of disks are you using?  Your results are almost twice
as fast as my fastest (which is machine 3 i.e. my slowest chip speed).

Jay

Machine 1 (the one in question), AMD 3200, 1 GB RAM, Disks on individual IDE
channels
platinum:~# df
Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/md0              19686680   1195512  17491132   7% /
tmpfs                   452284         0    452284   0% /dev/shm
/dev/md1              39373624     32844  37340696   1% /opt
/dev/md2              39373624     32848  37340692   1% /home
/dev/md4              14974680     32872  14181136   1% /usr/local

platinum:~# time dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null bs=64k count=10000
10000+0 records in
10000+0 records out
655360000 bytes transferred in 166.335481 seconds (3939989 bytes/sec)

real    2m46.336s
user    0m0.004s
sys     2m13.280s


platinum:~# time dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/null bs=64k count=10000
10000+0 records in
10000+0 records out
655360000 bytes transferred in 171.632623 seconds (3818388 bytes/sec)

real    2m51.634s
user    0m0.004s
sys     1m33.162s

# Machine 2, PII 400 Mhz, the disks are master/slave
meir:~# df
Filesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda4              4806936   1220040   3342708  27% /
/dev/hda1                46636       935     43293   3% /boot
/dev/hda5              4996728    938156   3804748  20% /home
/dev/hda6              3937220   2026628   1710588  55% /usr
/dev/hdb2              9843308   8246848   1096440  89% /opt
au:/usr/local/src     29530400   6731216  21299120  25% /usr/local/src

meir:~# time dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null bs=64k count=10000
10000+0 records in
10000+0 records out

real    2m48.300s
user    0m0.030s
sys     1m49.000s

Machine 1, PPro 180 Mhz, Master/Slave
abba:~# df
Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1              9851308   2534948   6815940  28% /
tmpfs                   258204         0    258204   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda3              7842996   3502032   3942552  48% /mnt/hda3


abba:~# time dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null bs=64k count=10000
10000+0 records in
10000+0 records out
655360000 bytes transferred in 56.396242 seconds (11620632 bytes/sec)

real    0m56.416s
user    0m0.120s
sys     0m11.960s



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Guy" <bugzilla@watkins-home.com>
To: <me@heyjay.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 9:44 PM
Subject: RE: Sync rates?


> My system re-builds at 4000-5000K/sec/disk.  It has 14 disks.
> During a re-build the CPU load is below 5%.
> I have 2 CPUs, P3-500Mhz, 512Meg ram.
> During a re-build I don't notice any slowdown.  I had a disk fail and it
> re-build on the spare.  I did not know until hours after it was done.
>
> If you cat /proc/mdstat it will show the re-build rate.
> That rate is per disk, not an overall total.
>
> I would say your system has problems!
> Test each disk with dd.
> This is a read test!!
>
> time dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null bs=64k count=10000
>
> This should take less than a minute (34.6 seconds for me).
> If the above gives the same results on each disk, drop the count=10000.
>
> time dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null bs=64k
>
> Without the count=10000 it will read 100% of the disk, this may take an
hour
> or more.
> It will report a record count.
> Do this math to determine the speed in K per second.
> Records*64/number of seconds
>
> Replace "hda" with whatever is correct for you.
> Do this for each disk.
> I bet you find 1 disk is much slower than the others.
> Maybe a bad cable, don't know.
>
> Good luck,
> Guy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org
> [mailto:linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of me@heyjay.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 10:02 PM
> To: Paul Clements
> Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: Sync rates?
>
> My machine was idle during the rebuild.  When I say idle, I mean no one
> logged in, no user processes running (except me sshed into the box), no
> database, no I/O other than the rebuild.
>
> While the rebuild was going on my system was debilitated, totally slow to
> respond to ssh commands
>
> Jay
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul Clements" <paul.clements@steeleye.com>
> To: <me@heyjay.com>
> Cc: <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Sync rates?
>
>
> > me@heyjay.com wrote:
> >
> > > platinum:~# cat /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_min
> > > 1000
> > > platinum:~# cat /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_max
> > > 200000
> >  > Are these acceptable?
> >
> > Well, those values are in KB/s. And, your resync rate is about:
> >
> > 120000000 / ( 24 * 60 * 60 ) = 1388 KB/s
> >
> > if my calculations are correct. I'd try bumping the min value up to say
> > 10000 and see if that speeds things up. Is there much I/O activity on
> > the system? That will slow down a resync quite a bit, too.
> >
> > --
> > Paul
> >
> >
>
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Re: Sync rates?

[me]

Cable problems, I suspect this is more to ones liking?

platinum:/mnt/config# ./ddtest

time dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null bs=64k count=10000
10000+0 records in
10000+0 records out
655360000 bytes transferred in 12.050804 seconds (54383093 bytes/sec)

real    0m12.058s
user    0m0.000s
sys     0m1.780s
time dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/null bs=64k count=10000
10000+0 records in
10000+0 records out
655360000 bytes transferred in 11.508676 seconds (56944865 bytes/sec)

real    0m11.510s
user    0m0.010s
sys     0m1.670s


What exactly am I testing here though?  I'm only testing write speed not
read speed, correct?  Is there an analogous test for reads?

Thanks
Jay

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Guy" <bugzilla@watkins-home.com>
To: <me@heyjay.com>
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 1:24 AM
Subject: RE: Sync rates?


> I don't understand what's wrong with your disks.  If you can, configure
one
> as a master without a slave.  Then time it.
>
> My disks are slow/old SCSI disks.  The max speed is about 19Meg/second.
> Today's disks are much faster.
> The reason my disks are as slow as 4000-5000K /sec is that I have 7 of
them
> on a 40M/sec SCSI bus.
> I checked my notes, the speed is just over 5000K/sec.
> If I were to upgrade the SCSI card to a LVD (80M/sec) I would get about
> 10000K/sec.  I did that once with a barrowed card.  Was very cool.
> My disks are Seagate ST118202LC or SX118282LS, depending on where I look!
> 18Gig, 10,000RPM.  Good seek time, but slow sustained transfer rate.
>
> Guy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: me@heyjay.com [mailto:me@heyjay.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 1:29 AM
> To: Guy; linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: Sync rates?
>
> Weird, seems as if the faster the processor the longer the test takes.  I
> ran it on 2 other machines, in addition to the one with raid.  Here are
the
> results.  What type of disks are you using?  Your results are almost twice
> as fast as my fastest (which is machine 3 i.e. my slowest chip speed).
>
> Jay
>
> Machine 1 (the one in question), AMD 3200, 1 GB RAM, Disks on individual
IDE
> channels
> platinum:~# df
> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/md0              19686680   1195512  17491132   7% /
> tmpfs                   452284         0    452284   0% /dev/shm
> /dev/md1              39373624     32844  37340696   1% /opt
> /dev/md2              39373624     32848  37340692   1% /home
> /dev/md4              14974680     32872  14181136   1% /usr/local
>
> platinum:~# time dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null bs=64k count=10000
> 10000+0 records in
> 10000+0 records out
> 655360000 bytes transferred in 166.335481 seconds (3939989 bytes/sec)
>
> real    2m46.336s
> user    0m0.004s
> sys     2m13.280s
>
>
> platinum:~# time dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/null bs=64k count=10000
> 10000+0 records in
> 10000+0 records out
> 655360000 bytes transferred in 171.632623 seconds (3818388 bytes/sec)
>
> real    2m51.634s
> user    0m0.004s
> sys     1m33.162s
>
> # Machine 2, PII 400 Mhz, the disks are master/slave
> meir:~# df
> Filesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda4              4806936   1220040   3342708  27% /
> /dev/hda1                46636       935     43293   3% /boot
> /dev/hda5              4996728    938156   3804748  20% /home
> /dev/hda6              3937220   2026628   1710588  55% /usr
> /dev/hdb2              9843308   8246848   1096440  89% /opt
> au:/usr/local/src     29530400   6731216  21299120  25% /usr/local/src
>
> meir:~# time dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null bs=64k count=10000
> 10000+0 records in
> 10000+0 records out
>
> real    2m48.300s
> user    0m0.030s
> sys     1m49.000s
>
> Machine 1, PPro 180 Mhz, Master/Slave
> abba:~# df
> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda1              9851308   2534948   6815940  28% /
> tmpfs                   258204         0    258204   0% /dev/shm
> /dev/hda3              7842996   3502032   3942552  48% /mnt/hda3
>
>
> abba:~# time dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null bs=64k count=10000
> 10000+0 records in
> 10000+0 records out
> 655360000 bytes transferred in 56.396242 seconds (11620632 bytes/sec)
>
> real    0m56.416s
> user    0m0.120s
> sys     0m11.960s
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Guy" <bugzilla@watkins-home.com>
> To: <me@heyjay.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 9:44 PM
> Subject: RE: Sync rates?
>
>
> > My system re-builds at 4000-5000K/sec/disk.  It has 14 disks.
> > During a re-build the CPU load is below 5%.
> > I have 2 CPUs, P3-500Mhz, 512Meg ram.
> > During a re-build I don't notice any slowdown.  I had a disk fail and it
> > re-build on the spare.  I did not know until hours after it was done.
> >
> > If you cat /proc/mdstat it will show the re-build rate.
> > That rate is per disk, not an overall total.
> >
> > I would say your system has problems!
> > Test each disk with dd.
> > This is a read test!!
> >
> > time dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null bs=64k count=10000
> >
> > This should take less than a minute (34.6 seconds for me).
> > If the above gives the same results on each disk, drop the count=10000.
> >
> > time dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null bs=64k
> >
> > Without the count=10000 it will read 100% of the disk, this may take an
> hour
> > or more.
> > It will report a record count.
> > Do this math to determine the speed in K per second.
> > Records*64/number of seconds
> >
> > Replace "hda" with whatever is correct for you.
> > Do this for each disk.
> > I bet you find 1 disk is much slower than the others.
> > Maybe a bad cable, don't know.
> >
> > Good luck,
> > Guy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org
> > [mailto:linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of me@heyjay.com
> > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 10:02 PM
> > To: Paul Clements
> > Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
> > Subject: Re: Sync rates?
> >
> > My machine was idle during the rebuild.  When I say idle, I mean no one
> > logged in, no user processes running (except me sshed into the box), no
> > database, no I/O other than the rebuild.
> >
> > While the rebuild was going on my system was debilitated, totally slow
to
> > respond to ssh commands
> >
> > Jay
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Paul Clements" <paul.clements@steeleye.com>
> > To: <me@heyjay.com>
> > Cc: <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: Sync rates?
> >
> >
> > > me@heyjay.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > platinum:~# cat /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_min
> > > > 1000
> > > > platinum:~# cat /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_max
> > > > 200000
> > >  > Are these acceptable?
> > >
> > > Well, those values are in KB/s. And, your resync rate is about:
> > >
> > > 120000000 / ( 24 * 60 * 60 ) = 1388 KB/s
> > >
> > > if my calculations are correct. I'd try bumping the min value up to
say
> > > 10000 and see if that speeds things up. Is there much I/O activity on
> > > the system? That will slow down a resync quite a bit, too.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> >
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