From: Gregory Leblanc <gleblanc@linuxweasel.com>
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RAID-6 support in kernel?
Date: 03 Jun 2002 10:33:24 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1023125615.1051.1283.camel@peecee> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206030213510.23709-100000@gecko.roadtoad.net>
On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 02:25, Derek Vadala wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
> It'll waste 9 drives, giving me a total capacity of 7n instead of 14n.
> And, by definition, RAID-6 _can_ withstand _any_ two-drive failure.
This is certainly not true.
Combining N RAID-5 into a stripe wastes on N disks.
Hot spares are quite a nice way to increase the reliability of your
arrays, somewhat. You can still be in trouble if a second disk fails
before the resync finishes, but at that point you're probably talking
about something of a more catastrophic failure, perhaps outside of the
machine itself.
> With a 1500MHz Athlon on a typical file server where there's not much
> writes, the CPU is sitting there chrunching RC5-64 som 99,95 % of the
> time. I don't think it'll make much differnce with today's CPUs
It's up to you to decide if the performance trade-off is worthwhile. I
merely trying to point out that system with 2 RAID-5 is likely to incur
the same CPU hit as a single RAID-6, implemented in the kernel.
The issue isn't so much CPU load, but latency. I'm too lazy to go read
a summary on RAID 6, but with RAID 5, blocks to be written as part of a
stripe often need to be read from the disk in order to generate the
parity. Parity calculations are pretty trivial on modern CPUs, but disk
latency certainly isn't. HTH,
Greg
--
Portland, Oregon, USA.
Please don't copy me on replies to the list.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-06-03 17:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-06-02 23:01 RAID-6 support in kernel? Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-06-03 0:33 ` Derek Vadala
2002-06-03 8:24 ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-06-03 9:25 ` Derek Vadala
[not found] ` <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206030213510.23709-100000@gecko.roadtoad.net>
2002-06-03 9:31 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-06-03 14:52 ` Kasper Dupont
2002-06-03 14:55 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-06-04 12:49 ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-06-04 15:49 ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-04 15:49 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20020604154904.J36@toy.ucw.cz>
2002-06-04 22:27 ` Kasper Dupont
2002-06-05 9:28 ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
[not found] ` <3CFD3EE5.DAE3E2C9@daimi.au.dk>
2002-06-05 9:36 ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-06-03 17:33 ` Gregory Leblanc [this message]
2002-06-03 19:53 ` Ross Vandegrift
2002-06-04 20:20 ` Jakob Østergaard
2002-06-05 7:57 ` Luca Berra
2002-06-05 10:53 ` Jakob Østergaard
2002-06-05 19:42 ` Luca Berra
2002-06-05 21:25 ` background scanning for media defects (was Re: RAID-6 support in kernel?) Friedrich Lobenstock
2002-06-04 18:50 ` RAID-6 support in kernel? Bill Davidsen
[not found] <Pine.LNX.3.96.1020604144204.5024D-100000@gatekeeper.tmr.com>
2002-06-06 1:19 ` Derek Vadala
2002-06-06 8:28 ` Kasper Dupont
2002-06-06 11:57 ` Helge Hafting
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