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From: raz ben jehuda <razb@bitband.com>
To: Molle Bestefich <molle.bestefich@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-raid <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: when does it become faulty disk
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:09:44 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1119262184.3076.1.camel@raz-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <62b0912f05062000557bd05348@mail.gmail.com>

thank you molle.
This was a very helpful information.
On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 10:55, Molle Bestefich wrote:
> raz ben jehuda wrote:
> > So, what about write errors ?
> > from what you are saying i understand that when a write error occurs
> > the disk is faulty.
> 
> Yes..  If you are serious about your data redundancy, yes.
> 
> A sector _read_ error is a notification from the disk that a sector
> has gone bad and that some particular data is lost.
> 
> A sector _write_ error is the disk telling you that:
>  1. The sector has gone bad.
>  2. The disk failed to relocate the sector to the spare area, probably
> because it's full.
> 
> The above are slight simplifications, since other kinds of read and
> write errors may in very rare cases occur.  That's OK though, since
> you DO want sick disks with strange internal errors that are causing
> read or write errors to get kicked.
> 
> In rare cases a disk could get sick in a way where writes to a bad
> sector succeeds but subsequent reads fail.  Never seen it happen...
> But just in case, you might want to re-read a failed sector after you
> have written to it, just to check that the disk actually correctly
> relocated it.
> 
> Once a disk has been kicked, you may want to instruct the user to
> check that the disk's spare sector count has indeed reached 0, by
> using smartctl -a /dev/xxx.  That command will also tell of other disk
> failures.
-- 
Raz
Long Live The Penguin


  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-20 10:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-18 11:47 when does it become faulty disk Raz Ben-Jehuda(caro)
2005-06-19 19:10 ` Molle Bestefich
2005-06-20  6:43   ` raz ben jehuda
2005-06-20  7:55     ` Molle Bestefich
2005-06-20 10:09       ` raz ben jehuda [this message]
2005-06-20 13:45   ` Michael Tokarev
2005-06-20 15:35     ` raz ben jehuda
2005-06-21  1:53 ` More tales of horror from the linux (HW) raid crypt Harry Mangalam
2005-06-22 19:33   ` Mike Hardy
2005-06-22 20:16     ` Harry Mangalam
2005-06-22 20:38       ` Jure Pecar
2005-06-22 21:33         ` Harry Mangalam
2005-06-22 23:15           ` SMART, was " Konstantin Olchanski
2005-06-22 23:32             ` Harry Mangalam
2005-06-22 23:35             ` Mike Hardy
2005-06-22 21:09       ` Brad Dameron
2005-06-22 21:43         ` Harry Mangalam
2005-06-22 22:00           ` Ming Zhang
2005-06-22 22:11             ` John Madden
2005-06-22 22:26               ` Ming Zhang
2005-06-23  0:20               ` bdameron
2005-06-22 22:45             ` Harry Mangalam
2005-06-22 23:05               ` Ming Zhang
2005-06-23  0:25               ` bdameron
2005-06-23  0:14             ` bdameron
2005-06-23  0:49               ` Ming Zhang
2005-06-23  3:05                 ` Guy
2005-06-23 12:31                   ` Ming Zhang
2005-06-23 13:03                     ` Guy
2005-06-23 13:17                       ` Andy Smith
2005-06-23 13:19                       ` Ming Zhang
2005-06-22 23:54       ` Jon Lewis
2005-06-22 20:54     ` Dan Stromberg
2005-06-22 21:15       ` Brad Dameron

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