From: Daniel Reurich <daniel@centurion.net.nz>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>,
linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: md extension to support booting from raid whole disks.
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:41:59 +1200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1240962119.18303.826.camel@ezra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18935.35747.471257.202356@notabene.brown>
>
> v1.x metadata has explicit knowledge of where the start of the data
> is, so it is quite possible to leave the first few (dozen) sectors
> unused (let's not talk about cylinders this century - OK?).
> So mdadm could grow a --grub flag to use with --create which arranged
> for data/bitmap to not use the first (say) 512 sectors of any device.
> (1.1 and 1.2 would still use reserved blocks for the superblock).
> [I can cut you a patch to experiment with if you like]
That would be nice. The 1.1 superblock is no good as the bootsector
goes in the same place, and 1.2 is where I expect grub would be writing
data too. I'll check this though. Grub still needs patching to
understand v1.X superblocks, so that could include blacklisting the
location of a v1.2 superblock location and some for the write-intent
bitmap. (Is there a way to determine where the w-i bitmap gets located
and how big it is from the super block.)
I'd say put lets reserve the first 64K (2 cylinders) for boot and
superblock.
> grub could then write whatever it wants to write to any of these
> sectors.
>
> That only leaves the question of what happens when a spare is added to
> the array - how does the grub data get written to the space on the
> spare.
> I would rather that grub were responsible for this, than for md to
> treat that unused space as RAID1.
Fair enough for the short term, but I imagine in the long run it would
be a better way then calling an external application. Isn't this
already done for the w-i bitmap anyway?
> We already have a notification system based on "mdadm --monitor" to
> process events. We could possibly plug grub in to that somehow so
> that it gets told to re-write all it's special blocks every time
> something significant changes in the array.
If mdmon can call external commands, it should only need to call the
appropriate grub-install [/dev/md/dX | "(md0)", and it would rewrite the
superblock on all the devices.
--
Daniel Reurich
Centurion Computer Technology (2005) Ltd
Ph 021 797 722
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-28 23:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-24 12:08 md extension to support booting from raid whole disks Daniel Reurich
2009-04-27 15:08 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-28 4:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-28 6:26 ` Luca Berra
2009-04-28 9:35 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-28 11:21 ` Daniel Reurich
2009-04-28 17:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-28 22:23 ` Daniel Reurich
2009-04-28 23:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-29 0:02 ` Daniel Reurich
2009-04-29 11:32 ` John Robinson
2009-04-28 18:24 ` Dan Williams
2009-04-28 22:19 ` Daniel Reurich
2009-04-28 22:26 ` Dan Williams
2009-05-01 21:04 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-05-01 21:24 ` Dan Williams
2009-05-01 22:33 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-05-02 12:07 ` John Robinson
2009-05-04 17:02 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-05-05 9:31 ` Michal Soltys
2009-04-28 23:05 ` Neil Brown
2009-04-28 23:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-29 0:00 ` Daniel Reurich
2009-04-29 0:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-29 0:20 ` Daniel Reurich
2009-04-29 0:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-29 0:43 ` Daniel Reurich
2009-04-29 6:43 ` Gabor Gombas
2009-05-01 21:10 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-05-01 22:36 ` Rudy Zijlstra
2009-05-02 1:04 ` Daniel Reurich
2009-05-02 17:02 ` Michał Przyłuski
2009-05-03 1:33 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-05-03 4:25 ` NeilBrown
2009-05-03 18:05 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-05-04 3:04 ` Daniel Reurich
2009-05-08 21:50 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-05-08 22:16 ` NeilBrown
2009-05-08 22:29 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-05-12 5:39 ` Neil Brown
2009-05-12 19:44 ` Daniel Reurich
2009-05-13 11:12 ` Neil Brown
2009-05-14 2:21 ` Daniel Reurich
2009-05-15 16:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-13 12:15 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-05-08 22:06 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-05-09 7:20 ` Peter Rabbitson
2009-05-10 1:29 ` Goswin von Brederlow
[not found] ` <87presxwu4.fsf@frosties.localdomain>
[not found] ` <1241219902.9516.6.camel@poledra.romunt.nl>
[not found] ` <87bpq8n6ym.fsf@frosties.localdomain>
2009-05-04 20:57 ` Rudy Zijlstra
2009-05-04 22:33 ` Daniel Reurich
2009-05-05 0:26 ` John Robinson
2009-05-05 9:03 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2009-05-08 21:18 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-29 22:43 ` md extension to support booting from raid whole disks, raid6, grub2, lvm2 Michael Ole Olsen
2009-05-01 21:36 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-29 7:45 ` md extension to support booting from raid whole disks Luca Berra
2009-04-29 16:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-29 20:38 ` Luca Berra
2009-04-30 6:59 ` Gabor Gombas
2009-04-30 8:11 ` Luca Berra
2009-04-30 13:01 ` John Robinson
2009-04-28 23:41 ` Daniel Reurich [this message]
2009-04-29 0:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-01 21:33 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-28 7:08 ` Daniel Reurich
2009-04-28 23:07 ` Neil Brown
2009-04-28 23:21 ` Daniel Reurich
2009-04-28 23:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-29 0:05 ` Daniel Reurich
2009-04-29 0:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-29 0:36 ` Daniel Reurich
2009-04-29 0:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <1240968482.18303.1028.camel@ezra>
[not found] ` <49F7B162.8060301@zytor.com>
2009-04-29 2:08 ` Daniel Reurich
2009-04-29 2:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-30 2:41 ` Daniel Reurich
2009-04-29 7:07 ` Gabor Gombas
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