From: Kasper Sandberg <postmaster@metanurb.dk>
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
Cc: linux-raid <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Idea for new RAID type - background extended recovery information
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:22:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1260602531.7209.10.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0912091143350.23464@uplift.swm.pp.se>
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 11:53 +0100, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, Michael Evans wrote:
>
> > keeps a checksum for every storage segment. However that conflicts
> > with the 'zero it before creation and assume-clean works' idea. It
> > also very likely has extremely poor write performance.
>
> Generally, my experience has been that total disk failures are fairly
> rare, instead with the much larger disks today, I get single block/sector
> failures, meaning 512 bytes (or 4 k, I don't remember) can't be read. Is
> there any data to support this?
>
> Would it make sense to add 4k to every 64k of raid chunk (non-raid1) for
> some kind of "parity" information. Since I guess all writes involves
> re-writing the whole chunk, adding 4k here shouldn't make the write
> performance be worse?
>
> The problem I'm trying to address is the raid5 "disk failure and then
> random single block/sector error on the rest of the drives".
>
> For arrays with few drives this would be much more efficient than going to
> raid6...?
>
> An 8 disk raid6 with 1TB you get 6 TB of usable data, for an 8 disk raid5p
> (p for parity, I just made that up), it would be 7*64/68=6.59 TB.
while this could work, i would personally far rather see raid6 gain all
the recovery/sanity options possible. raid6 has multiple copies of the
same data, and as long as you have >2 copies, you can begin to look at
all the data sets, and with a pretty good probability weed out the bad
set.
>
> For 6 disk raid6 = 4TB and raid5p makes this 5*64/68=4.71TB.
>
> For 4 disk raid5 = 2TB and raid5p makes this 3*64=68=2.82TB.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-12 7:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-09 9:06 Idea for new RAID type - background extended recovery information Michael Evans
2009-12-09 10:53 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2009-12-10 0:45 ` Michael Evans
2009-12-12 7:22 ` Kasper Sandberg [this message]
2009-12-13 3:47 ` Michael Evans
2009-12-16 13:13 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-12-17 1:11 ` Michael Evans
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