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From: "Janos Haar" <janos.haar@netcenter.hu>
To: MRK <mrk@shiftmail.org>
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Suggestion needed for fixing RAID6
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 23:44:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <154b01cae977$6e09da80$0400a8c0@dcccs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4BDC6217.9000209@shiftmail.org


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MRK" <mrk@shiftmail.org>
To: "Janos Haar" <janos.haar@netcenter.hu>
Cc: <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: Suggestion needed for fixing RAID6


> On 05/01/2010 11:37 AM, Janos Haar wrote:
>> Whoever, the sync_min option generally solves my problem, becasue i can 
>> build up the missing disk from the 90% wich is good enough for me. :-)
>
> Are you sure? How do you do that?
> Resyncing a specific part is easy, replicating to a spare a specific part 
> is not. If the disk you want to replace was 100% made of parity data that 
> would be easy, you do that with a resync after replacing the disk, maybe 
> multiple resyncs region by region, but in your case it is not made of only 
> parity data. Only raid3 and 4 separate parity data from actual data, raid6 
> instead finely interleaves them.
> If you are thinking about replacing a disk with a new one (full of zeroes) 
> and then resyncing manually region by region, you will destroy your data. 
> Because in those chunks where the new disk acts as "actual data" the 
> parity will be recomputed based on your newly introduced zeroes, and it 
> will overwrite the parity data you had on the good disks, making recovery 
> impossible from that point on.
> You really need to do the replication to a spare as a single step, from 
> the beginning to the end. You cannot use sync_min and sync_max for that 
> purpose.

You are right again, or at least close. :-)
I have the missing sdd4 wich is 98% correctly rebuilt allready.
But you are right, because the sync_min option not works for rebuilding 
disks, only for resyncing. (it is too smart to do the trick for me)

> I think... unless bitmaps really do some magic in this, flagging the newly 
> introduced disk as more recent than parity data... but do they really do 
> this? people correct me if I'm wrong.

Bitmap manipulation should work.
I think i know how to do that, but the data is more important than try it on 
my own.
I want to wait until somebody support this.
... or somebody have another good idea?

The general problem is, i have one single-degraded RAID6 + 2 badblock disk 
inside wich have bads in different location.
The big question is how to keep the integrity or how to do the rebuild by 2 
step instead of one continous?

Thanks again
Janos

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-01 21:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-22 10:09 Suggestion needed for fixing RAID6 Janos Haar
2010-04-22 15:00 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2010-04-22 15:12   ` Janos Haar
2010-04-22 15:18     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2010-04-22 16:25       ` Janos Haar
2010-04-22 16:32       ` Peter Rabbitson
     [not found] ` <4BD0AF2D.90207@stud.tu-ilmenau.de>
2010-04-22 20:48   ` Janos Haar
2010-04-23  6:51 ` Luca Berra
2010-04-23  8:47   ` Janos Haar
2010-04-23 12:34     ` MRK
2010-04-24 19:36       ` Janos Haar
2010-04-24 22:47         ` MRK
2010-04-25 10:00           ` Janos Haar
2010-04-26 10:24             ` MRK
2010-04-26 12:52               ` Janos Haar
2010-04-26 16:53                 ` MRK
2010-04-26 22:39                   ` Janos Haar
2010-04-26 23:06                     ` Michael Evans
     [not found]                       ` <7cfd01cae598$419e8d20$0400a8c0@dcccs>
2010-04-27  0:04                         ` Michael Evans
2010-04-27 15:50                   ` Janos Haar
2010-04-27 23:02                     ` MRK
2010-04-28  1:37                       ` Neil Brown
2010-04-28  2:02                         ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2010-04-28  2:12                           ` Neil Brown
2010-04-28  2:30                             ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2010-05-03  2:29                               ` Neil Brown
2010-04-28 12:57                         ` MRK
2010-04-28 13:32                           ` Janos Haar
2010-04-28 14:19                             ` MRK
2010-04-28 14:51                               ` Janos Haar
2010-04-29  7:55                               ` Janos Haar
2010-04-29 15:22                                 ` MRK
2010-04-29 21:07                                   ` Janos Haar
2010-04-29 23:00                                     ` MRK
2010-04-30  6:17                                       ` Janos Haar
2010-04-30 23:54                                         ` MRK
     [not found]                                         ` <4BDB6DB6.5020306@sh iftmail.org>
2010-05-01  9:37                                           ` Janos Haar
2010-05-01 17:17                                             ` MRK
2010-05-01 21:44                                               ` Janos Haar [this message]
2010-05-02 23:05                                                 ` MRK
2010-05-03  2:17                                                 ` Neil Brown
2010-05-03 10:04                                                   ` MRK
2010-05-03 10:21                                                     ` MRK
2010-05-03 21:04                                                       ` Neil Brown
2010-05-03 21:02                                                     ` Neil Brown
     [not found]                                                   ` <4BDE9FB6.80309@shiftmai! l.org>
2010-05-03 10:20                                                     ` Janos Haar
2010-05-05 15:24                                                     ` Suggestion needed for fixing RAID6 [SOLVED] Janos Haar
2010-05-05 19:27                                                       ` MRK

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