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From: "NeilBrown" <neilb@suse.de>
To: Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>
Cc: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>,
	LinuxRaid RAID <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Patch] mdadm: move mdadm.map file into /dev/md
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:26:24 +1000 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <155bf3edda1c2692d316807ff5f58f30.squirrel@neil.brown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FF2073B4-6922-4D16-8FA7-90C66071C6F6@redhat.com>

On Tue, April 7, 2009 10:16 pm, Doug Ledford wrote:
> On Apr 7, 2009, at 2:05 AM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com> writes:
>>
>>> Originally, mdadm used /var/run/mdadm/mdadm.map file to store the
>>> temporary mappings of incrementally added devices to device names.
>>> Unfortunately, this breaks incremental assembly if used early in the
>>> booting process.  Specifically, root may still be read only.  Since
>>> incremental assembly is largely a udev specific feature, and udev
>>> needs a writable /dev tmpfs mount even when root is still read only,
>>> it's safer to put our mdadm.map file in /dev/md so that we can write
>>> to the map file no matter how early in the boot process we are
>>> attempting to use incremental assembly.
>>
>> What about /lib/init/rw?
>
> Never heard of it.  But, if / is read-only, why wouldn't that also be
> read-only?

because a tmpfs was mounted there.  It's probably a Debian-specific
thing.

Why /var/run cannot be mounted from tmpfs nice and early too I don't know..
I understand that some people think /var/run needs to persist across
reboots to preserve ownership of directories, but they are wrong :-)
/var/run should be a tmpfs mount point very early.

I have to say that putting the map file in /dev feels very icky
to me.  It isn't a device, and so doesn't belong in /dev.
If we go around putting things somewhere convenient rather than
where they belong, we quickly end up with a mess.

So while it might be very pragmatic, I am currently dis-inclined
to take the patch.   Can you try asking your boot-script people
to make /var/run be an early tmpfs ???

NeilBrown


  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-07 21:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-06 14:52 [Patch] mdadm: move mdadm.map file into /dev/md Doug Ledford
2009-04-06 19:36 ` Luca Berra
2009-04-07  6:05 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-07 10:55   ` Luca Berra
2009-04-07 21:04     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-07 12:16   ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-07 21:26     ` NeilBrown [this message]
2009-04-07 22:14       ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-08  6:38         ` Neil Brown
2009-04-09 19:28           ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-08  0:15       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-08  6:31         ` Neil Brown
2009-04-09 19:25           ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-14  1:12             ` Neil Brown

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