From: Neil Brown <neilb@cse.unsw.edu.au>
To: Steven Dake <sdake@mvista.com>
Cc: Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC - new raid superblock layout for md driver
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:35:06 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <15859.51482.570635.122591@notabene.cse.unsw.edu.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: message from Steven Dake on Wednesday November 20
( sorrt for the delay in replying, I had a week off, and then a week
catching up...)
On Wednesday November 20, sdake@mvista.com wrote:
> The only application where having a RAID volume shareable between two
> hosts is useful is for a clustering filesystem (GFS comes to mind).
> Since RAID is an important need for GFS (if a disk node fails, you
> don't want ot loose the entire filesystem as you would on GFS) this
> possibility may be worth exploring.
>
> Since GFS isn't GPL at this point and OpenGFS needs alot of work, I've
> not spent the time looking at it.
>
> Neil have you thought about sharing an active volume between two hosts
> and what sort of support would be needed in the superblock?
>
I think that the only way shared access could work is if different
hosts controlled different slices of the device. The hosts would have
to some-how negotiate and record who was managing which bit. It is
quite appropriate that this information be stored on the raid array,
and quite possibly in a superblock. But I think that this is a
sufficiently major departure from how md/raid normally works that I
would want it to go in a secondary superblock.
There is 60K free at the end of each device on an MD array. Whoever
was implementing this scheme could just have a flag in the main
superblock to say "there is a secondary superblock" and then read the
info about who owns what from somewhere in that extra 60K
So in short, I think the metadata needed for this sort of thing is
sufficiently large and sufficiently unknown that I wouldn't make any
allowance for it in the primary superblock.
Does that sound reasonable?
NeilBrown
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-12-08 22:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-11-20 23:47 RFC - new raid superblock layout for md driver Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-11-21 0:31 ` Neil Brown
2002-11-21 0:35 ` Steven Dake
2002-11-21 1:10 ` Alan Cox
2002-12-08 22:35 ` Neil Brown [this message]
2002-11-21 19:39 ` Joel Becker
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-20 15:55 Steve Pratt
2002-11-20 23:24 ` Neil Brown
2002-11-20 4:09 Neil Brown
2002-11-20 10:03 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-11-20 23:02 ` Neil Brown
2002-11-22 0:08 ` Kenneth D. Merry
2002-12-09 3:52 ` Neil Brown
2002-12-10 6:28 ` Kenneth D. Merry
2002-12-11 0:07 ` Neil Brown
2002-11-20 13:58 ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2002-11-20 23:17 ` Neil Brown
2002-11-20 14:09 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-20 23:11 ` Neil Brown
2002-11-21 0:30 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-21 0:10 ` John Adams
2002-11-21 0:30 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-20 16:03 ` Joel Becker
2002-11-20 23:31 ` Neil Brown
2002-11-21 1:46 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-21 19:34 ` Joel Becker
2002-11-21 19:54 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-21 19:57 ` Steven Dake
2002-11-21 20:38 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-21 20:49 ` Steven Dake
2002-11-21 20:35 ` Kevin Corry
2002-11-21 21:29 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-21 21:22 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-21 20:53 ` Kevin Corry
2002-11-21 21:55 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-21 20:06 ` Joel Becker
2002-11-21 23:35 ` Luca Berra
2002-11-22 10:13 ` Joe Thornber
2002-12-02 21:38 ` Neil Brown
2002-12-03 8:24 ` Luca Berra
2002-11-20 17:05 ` Steven Dake
2002-11-20 23:30 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-11-20 23:48 ` Neil Brown
2002-11-21 0:29 ` Steven Dake
2002-11-21 15:23 ` John Stoffel
2002-11-21 19:36 ` Joel Becker
2002-11-22 7:11 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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