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From: "John Stoffel" <john@stoffel.org>
To: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
Cc: John Stoffel <john@stoffel.org>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Time to  deprecate old RAID formats?
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:00:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18207.20482.272516.461264@stoffel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <471E7DC6.7050206@tmr.com>

>>>>> "Bill" == Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> writes:

Bill> John Stoffel wrote:
>> Why do we have three different positions for storing the superblock?  

Bill> Why do you suggest changing anything until you get the answer to
Bill> this question? If you don't understand why there are three
Bill> locations, perhaps that would be a good initial investigation.

Because I've asked this question before and not gotten an answer, nor
is it answered in the man page for mdadm on why we have this setup. 

Bill> Clearly the short answer is that they reflect three stages of
Bill> Neil's thinking on the topic, and I would bet that he had a good
Bill> reason for moving the superblock when he did it.

So let's hear Neil's thinking about all this?  Or should I just work
up a patch to do what I suggest and see how that flies? 

Bill> Since you have to support all of them or break existing arrays,
Bill> and they all use the same format so there's no saving of code
Bill> size to mention, why even bring this up?

Because of the confusion factor.  Again, since noone has been able to
articulate a reason why we have three different versions of the 1.x
superblock, nor have I seen any good reasons for why we should have
them, I'm going by the KISS principle to reduce the options to the
best one.

And no, I'm not advocating getting rid of legacy support, but I AM
advocating that we settle on ONE standard format going forward as the
default for all new RAID superblocks.

John

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-24 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-19 14:34 Time to deprecate old RAID formats? John Stoffel
2007-10-19 15:09 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-10-19 15:46   ` John Stoffel
2007-10-19 16:15     ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-19 16:35       ` Justin Piszcz
2007-10-19 16:38       ` John Stoffel
2007-10-19 16:40         ` Justin Piszcz
2007-10-19 16:44           ` John Stoffel
2007-10-19 16:45             ` Justin Piszcz
2007-10-19 17:04               ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-19 17:05                 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-10-19 17:23                   ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-19 17:47                     ` Justin Piszcz
2007-10-20 18:38                       ` Michael Tokarev
2007-10-20 20:02                         ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-19 22:43                     ` chunk size (was Re: Time to deprecate old RAID formats?) Michal Soltys
2007-10-20 13:29                       ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-23 19:21                         ` Michal Soltys
2007-10-24  0:14                           ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-19 17:11         ` Time to deprecate old RAID formats? Doug Ledford
2007-10-19 18:39           ` John Stoffel
2007-10-19 21:23             ` Iustin Pop
2007-10-19 21:42               ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-20  7:53                 ` Iustin Pop
2007-10-20 13:11                   ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-26  9:54                     ` Luca Berra
2007-10-26 16:22                       ` Gabor Gombas
2007-10-26 17:06                         ` Gabor Gombas
2007-10-27 10:34                           ` Luca Berra
2007-10-26 18:52                       ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-26 22:30                         ` Gabor Gombas
2007-10-28  0:26                           ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-28 14:13                             ` Luca Berra
2007-10-28 17:47                               ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-29  8:41                                 ` Luca Berra
2007-10-29 15:30                                   ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-29 21:44                                     ` Luca Berra
2007-10-29 23:05                                       ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-30  3:10                                         ` Neil Brown
2007-10-30  6:55                                         ` Luca Berra
2007-10-30 16:48                                           ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-27  8:00                         ` Luca Berra
2007-10-27 20:09                           ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-28 13:46                             ` Luca Berra
2007-10-23 23:09                 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-23 23:03             ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-24  0:09               ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-24 23:55                 ` Neil Brown
2007-10-25  0:09                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-25  8:09                     ` David Greaves
2007-10-26  6:16                       ` Neil Brown
2007-10-26 14:18                         ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-26 18:41                           ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-26 22:20                             ` Gabor Gombas
2007-10-26 22:58                               ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-27 11:11                               ` Luca Berra
2007-10-27 15:20                             ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-28  0:18                               ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-29  0:44                                 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-27 21:11                             ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-29  0:48                               ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-30  3:25                           ` Neil Brown
2007-11-02 12:31                             ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-25  7:01                   ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-25 14:49                   ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-25 15:00                     ` David Greaves
2007-10-26  5:56                     ` Neil Brown
2007-10-24 14:00               ` John Stoffel [this message]
2007-10-24 15:18                 ` Mike Snitzer
2007-10-24 15:32                 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-20 14:09       ` Michael Tokarev
2007-10-20 14:24         ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-20 14:52         ` John Stoffel
2007-10-20 15:07           ` Iustin Pop
2007-10-20 15:36             ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-20 18:24           ` Michael Tokarev
2007-10-22 20:39             ` John Stoffel
2007-10-22 22:29               ` Michael Tokarev
2007-10-24  0:42               ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-24  9:40                 ` David Greaves
2007-10-24 20:22                 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-25 16:29                   ` Doug Ledford
2007-11-01 21:02                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-11-02 15:50                   ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-24  0:36             ` Doug Ledford
2007-10-23 23:18           ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-19 16:34     ` Justin Piszcz
2007-10-23 23:19       ` Bill Davidsen

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