linux-raid.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
To: "Keld Jørn Simonsen" <keld@dkuug.dk>
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: suns raid-z / zfs
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:07:44 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18361.1168.473685.214133@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: message from Keld Jorn Simonsen on Sunday February 17

On Sunday February 17, keld@dkuug.dk wrote:
> Hi
> 
> any opinions on suns zfs/raid-z?

It's vaguely interesting.  I'm not sold on the idea though.

> It seems like a good way to avoid the performance problems of raid-5
> /raid-6

I think there are better ways.

> 
> But does it stripe? One could think that rewriting stripes
> other places would damage the striping effects.

I'm not sure what you mean exactly.  But I suspect your concerns here
are unjustified.

> 
> Or is the performance only meant to be good for random read/write?

I suspect it is mean to be good for everything.  But you would have to
ask SUN that.

> 
> Can the code be lifted to Linux? I understand that it is already in
> freebsd. Does Suns licence prevent this?

My understanding is that the sun license prevents it.

However raid-z only makes sense in the context of a specific
filesystem such as ZFS.  It isn't something that you could just layer
any filesystem on top of.

> 
> And could something like this be built into existing file systems like
> ext3 and xfs? They could have a multipartition layer in their code, and
> then the heuristics to optimize block access could also apply to stripe
> access.

I doubt it, but I haven't thought deeply enough about it to see if
there might be some relatively non-intrusive way.

NeilBrown

> 
> best regards
> keld
> -
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in
> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-18  4:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-17 16:04 suns raid-z / zfs Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-02-18  4:07 ` Neil Brown [this message]
2008-02-18  5:33   ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-02-18 10:51     ` Neil Brown
2008-02-18 20:45       ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-02-21 10:37         ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
2008-02-26 20:27         ` Bill Davidsen

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=18361.1168.473685.214133@notabene.brown \
    --to=neilb@suse.de \
    --cc=keld@dkuug.dk \
    --cc=linux-raid@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).