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From: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
To: Gabor Gombas <gombasg@sztaki.hu>
Cc: Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	Jon Nelson <jnelson-linux-raid@jamponi.net>,
	LinuxRaid <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Patch] mdadm ignoring homehost?
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:23:52 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18924.1768.721791.765727@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: message from Gabor Gombas on Friday April 17

On Friday April 17, gombasg@sztaki.hu wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 01:49:41PM +1000, Neil Brown wrote:
> 
> > As you probably know, my preferred solution is to have all arrays
> > listed in /etc/mdadm.conf.  If it isn't in mdadm.conf, it doesn't get
> > assembled.   But I don't have a lot of company in this opinion.  Lots
> > of people want to have arrays assembled without them being in
> > mdadm.conf, and I'm trying to work with that.
> 
> IMHO the goal to have all arrays defined in mdadm.conf would be much
> better to achieve if mdadm managed that configuration itself, not unlike
> how LVM metadata is handled. Of course doing that right is not exactly
> easy...

How does LVM manage metadata???  I assume it stored the metadata on
the device.  Which is what mdadm does.
But as devices can move between machines.....

> 
> > Note that 0.90 metadata does contain homehost information to some
> > extent.  When homehost is set, the last few bytes of the uuid is set
> > from a hash of the homehost name.  That makes it possible to test if a
> > 0.90 array was created for 'this' host, but not to find out what host
> > it was created for.  So the above expedient won't work for 0.90
> > arrays, but the rest of the homehost concept (including any possible
> > 'homehost=any' option) does.
> 
> How about introducing /dev/md/by-uuid/... (or similar) and teaching
> people that if they want to transparently carry their arrays from one
> host to another, then they should always refer to it by UUID?

This already exists, though it might be distro-dependant.
  /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-xxxxx

> 
> Mounting file systems by UUID instead of device path got accepted by
> people who really care about moving things around, so doing the same for
> RAID could also work.

That would be nice... 

NeilBrown


  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-20  5:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-24 16:57 mdadm ignoring homehost? Jon Nelson
2009-04-01 15:15 ` Jon Nelson
2009-04-01 22:46   ` Neil Brown
2009-04-06 14:47     ` [Patch] " Doug Ledford
2009-04-06 19:33       ` Luca Berra
2009-04-17  3:49       ` Neil Brown
2009-04-17  7:08         ` Gabor Gombas
2009-04-20  5:23           ` Neil Brown [this message]
2009-04-21  6:34             ` Gabor Gombas
2009-04-21  7:06               ` Luca Berra
2009-04-17 18:17         ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-17 18:40           ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2009-04-18  7:54             ` Luca Berra
2009-04-18  8:36               ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2009-04-18 10:19                 ` Luca Berra
2009-04-18 13:06                   ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2009-04-20  5:58                     ` Neil Brown
2009-04-20 12:29                       ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-20 18:17                       ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2009-04-20 19:49                         ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-20 20:04                           ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2009-04-20 21:18                           ` Luca Berra
2009-04-20 21:13                         ` Luca Berra
2009-04-20 21:24                           ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2009-04-20 23:47                             ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-21  0:00                               ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-21  8:57                                 ` Michal Soltys
2009-04-21  6:29                               ` Luca Berra
2009-04-21 18:15                           ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2009-04-22 16:06                             ` Andrew Burgess
2009-04-23  1:20                               ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-23  5:51                                 ` Luca Berra
2009-04-23  6:09                                   ` Luca Berra
2009-04-23 11:05                                   ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-23 21:31                                     ` Luca Berra
2009-04-24 16:46                                       ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-24 19:15                                 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2009-04-26 11:52                                   ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-26 12:14                                     ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2009-04-26 12:58                                       ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2009-04-26 18:06                                         ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-26 19:08                                           ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2009-04-26 21:37                                       ` Michal Soltys
2009-04-18 14:34             ` Andrew Burgess
2009-04-18  8:12           ` Luca Berra
2009-04-18  8:44             ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2009-04-18 13:35             ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-18 13:52               ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2009-04-18 14:50                 ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-18 14:48               ` Jon Nelson
2009-04-20  6:08               ` Neil Brown
2009-04-20 12:26                 ` Luca Berra
2009-04-20 12:36                 ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-18 13:58           ` Bill Davidsen
2009-04-20  7:23           ` Neil Brown
2009-04-20 13:15             ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-21  6:54               ` Neil Brown
2009-05-11  6:47               ` Neil Brown
2009-04-01 22:47 ` Michal Soltys

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