From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>,
linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, justin_gibbs@adaptec.com,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: "Enhanced" MD code avaible for review
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 09:58:36 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040320095836.GA10398@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <405902A2.8060801@pobox.com>
Jeff Garzik wrote:
> I'll probably have to illustrate with code, but basically, read/write
> can be completely ignorant of 32/64-bit architecture, endianness, it can
> even be network-transparent. ioctls just can't do that.
Apart from the network transparency, yes they can.
Ioctl is no different from read/write/read-modify-write except
the additional command argument.
You can write architecture-specific ioctls which take and return
structs -- and you can do the same with read/write. This is what
Andi is thinking of as dangerous: the read/write case is then much
harder to emulate.
Or, you can write architecture-independent read/write, which use fixed
formats, which you seem to have in mind. That works fine with ioctls too.
It isn't commonly done, because people prefer the convenience of a
struct. But it does work. It's slightly easier in the driver to
implement commands this way using an ioctl, because you don't have to
check the read/write length. It's about the same to use from
userspace: both read/write and ioctl methods using an
architecture-independent data format require the program to lay out
the command bytes and then issue one system call.
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-20 9:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <1AOTW-4Vx-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <1AOTW-4Vx-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-03-18 1:33 ` "Enhanced" MD code avaible for review Andi Kleen
2004-03-18 2:00 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 9:58 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2004-03-19 20:19 Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-23 5:05 ` Neil Brown
2004-03-23 6:23 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-24 2:26 ` Neil Brown
2004-03-24 19:09 ` Matt Domsch
2004-03-25 2:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-25 18:00 ` Kevin Corry
2004-03-25 18:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-25 18:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-25 23:46 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-26 0:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-26 0:10 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-26 0:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-25 22:04 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-03-26 19:19 ` Kevin Corry
2004-03-31 17:07 ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-03-25 23:35 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-26 0:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-26 17:43 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-28 0:06 ` Lincoln Dale
2004-03-30 17:54 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-28 0:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-26 19:15 ` Kevin Corry
2004-03-26 20:45 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-27 15:39 ` Kevin Corry
2004-03-30 17:03 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-30 17:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-30 17:35 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-30 17:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-30 18:04 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-30 21:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-30 22:12 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-30 22:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-30 18:11 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-25 22:59 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-25 23:44 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-03-26 0:03 ` Justin T. Gibbs
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-03-17 18:14 Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-17 19:18 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-17 19:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-03-17 20:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-17 21:18 ` Scott Long
2004-03-17 21:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-17 21:45 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-18 0:23 ` Scott Long
2004-03-18 1:55 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-18 6:38 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-20 13:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-21 23:42 ` Scott Long
2004-03-22 9:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-22 21:59 ` Scott Long
2004-03-23 6:48 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-18 1:56 ` viro
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