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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>
To: Scott Long <scott_long@adaptec.com>
Cc: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <B.Zolnierkiewicz@elka.pw.edu.pl>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	"Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@scsiguy.com>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, "Gibbs,
	Justin" <justin_gibbs@adaptec.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: "Enhanced" MD code avaible for review
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 07:48:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040323064807.GA6815@devserv.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <405F61C1.9090907@adaptec.com>

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On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 02:59:29PM -0700, Scott Long wrote:
> >I think that all the arguments for using DM are techinical arguments not
> >emotional ones. oh well.. you're free to write your code I'm free to not
> >use it in my kernels ;)
> 
> Ok, the technical arguments I've heard in favor of the DM approach is 
> that it reduces kernel bloat.  That fair, and I certainly agree with not
> putting the kitchen sink into the kernel.  Our position on EMD is that
> it's a special case because you want to reduce the number of failure
> modes, and that it doesn't contribute in a significant way to the kernel
> size. 

There are serveral dozen such formats as DDF, should those be put in too?
And then the next step is built in multipathing or stacking or .. or .... 
And pretty soon you're back at the EVMS 1.0 situation. I see the general 
kernel direction be to move such autodetection to early userland (there's 
a reason DM and not EVMS1.0 is in the kernel, afaics even the EVMS guys now 
agree that this was the right move); EMD is a step in the opposite direction.


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  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-23  6:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-17 18:14 "Enhanced" MD code avaible for review Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-17 19:18 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-17 19:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-03-17 20:02     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-17 21:18   ` Scott Long
2004-03-17 21:35     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-17 21:45     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-18  0:23       ` Scott Long
2004-03-18  1:55         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-18  6:38         ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-20 13:07         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-21 23:42           ` Scott Long
2004-03-22  9:05             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-22 21:59               ` Scott Long
2004-03-23  6:48                 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2004-03-18  1:56     ` viro
     [not found] <1AOTW-4Vx-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <1AOTW-4Vx-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-03-18  1:33   ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-18  2:00     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20  9:58       ` Jamie Lokier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-03-19 20:19 Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-23  5:05 ` Neil Brown
2004-03-23  6:23   ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-24  2:26     ` Neil Brown
2004-03-24 19:09       ` Matt Domsch
2004-03-25  2:21       ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-25 18:00         ` Kevin Corry
2004-03-25 18:42           ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-25 18:48             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-25 23:46               ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-26  0:01                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-26  0:10                   ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-26  0:14                     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-25 22:04             ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-03-26 19:19               ` Kevin Corry
2004-03-31 17:07                 ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-03-25 23:35             ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-26  0:13               ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-26 17:43                 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-28  0:06                   ` Lincoln Dale
2004-03-30 17:54                     ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-28  0:30                   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-26 19:15             ` Kevin Corry
2004-03-26 20:45               ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-27 15:39                 ` Kevin Corry
2004-03-30 17:03                   ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-30 17:15                     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-30 17:35                       ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-30 17:46                         ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-30 18:04                           ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-30 21:47                             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-30 22:12                               ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-30 22:34                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-30 18:11                         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-25 22:59           ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-25 23:44             ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-03-26  0:03               ` Justin T. Gibbs

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