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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@cse.unsw.edu.au>
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH md 3 of 4] Delete unplug timer before shutting down md array.
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 21:33:33 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041101213333.201769d0.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16775.3329.279178.375487@cse.unsw.edu.au>


(Added Jens)

Neil Brown <neilb@cse.unsw.edu.au> wrote:
>
> On Monday November 1, akpm@osdl.org wrote:
> > Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > NeilBrown <neilb@cse.unsw.edu.au> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > As the unplug timer can potentially fire at any time, and
> > > >  and it access data that is released by the md ->stop function,
> > > >  we need to del_timer_sync before releasing that data.
> > > 
> > > raid really shouldn't know about unplug_timer.
> > > 
> > 
> > I mean, if we're actually destroying the queue then blk_cleanup_queue()
> > should have done the right thing here.  If we're not destroying the queue
> > then an unplug timer expiry should be benign.
> > 
> > Bit confused as to what's happening here.
> 
> Not surprising.  It's a bit ugly.
> 
> md has the misfortune of working in a way that doesn't fit very well
> with some aspects of the blkdev layer.
> 
> To create an md array, you open /dev/mdX, and use some ioctls to set
> up the array.  Thus the block device must exist internally as a block
> device before any details about it are available.
> 
> Similarly, to shut down an array, you open /dev/mdX and use an ioctl
> to shut it down.  This it will still be open (though only once) after
> it has been shut down.
> 
> (as I understand it) I can only safely use blk_cleanup_queue on the
> queue after (or during) the last close.  Thus I cannot use it while
> shutting down an array.
> However I need to release the md personality as part of shutting down
> the array, so I have to disable the unplug function (which is handled
> by the personality).
> 
> I could change ->unplug_fn to point to something safe, but there is
> still a race with the timer going off at just the wrong time.

hm, OK.  So perhaps using /dev/mdX as a control channel for creating and
destroying /dev/mdX was unfortunate design.  Ho hum.

> Maybe an API that allowed by to change ->make_request_fn and
> ->unplug_fn (and possibly others) and then call some interface, and be
> sure that no internal use of those functions would occur after given
> interface was called.
> This interface could then just do the del_timer_sync.

Something like that would be nicer, I think - a centralised point with
nicely apologetic commentary rather than mysterious open-coded poking at
block internals ;)


  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-02  5:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-02  3:37 [PATCH md 0 of 4] Introduction NeilBrown
2004-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH md 4 of 4] "Faulty" personality of md NeilBrown
2004-11-02  9:31   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-11-02 23:30     ` Neil Brown
2004-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH md 3 of 4] Delete unplug timer before shutting down md array NeilBrown
2004-11-02  4:57   ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-02  5:00     ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-02  4:28       ` Neil Brown
2004-11-02  5:33         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2004-11-02  7:12           ` Luca Berra
2004-11-03  0:29             ` Neil Brown
2004-11-03 23:03   ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-04  9:21     ` Jens Axboe
2004-11-05  8:52       ` Jens Axboe
2004-11-07 23:38         ` Neil Brown
2004-11-07 23:42           ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-08  1:21             ` Neil Brown
2004-11-08 11:23             ` Jens Axboe
2004-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH md 2 of 4] Fix raid6 problem NeilBrown
2004-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH md 1 of 4] Fix problem with md/linear for devices larger than 2 terabytes NeilBrown

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