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From: maarten <maarten@ultratux.net>
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ext3 journal on software raid (was Re: PROBLEM: Kernel 2.6.10 crashing repeatedly and hard)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 20:22:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200501042022.30072.maarten@ultratux.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ctkqa2-4m2.ln1@news.it.uc3m.es>

On Tuesday 04 January 2005 15:13, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> Maarten <maarten@ultratux.net> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 04 January 2005 11:18, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> > > Maarten <maarten@ultratux.net> wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 04 January 2005 03:41, Andy Smith wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 01:22:56PM +1100, Neil Brown wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday January 3, ewan.grantham@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > It's not "my" data center.  It is what it is.  I can only control
> > > certain things in it, such as the software on the machines, and which
> > > machines are bought.  Nor is it a "data center", but a working
> > > environment for about 200 scientists and engineers, plus thousands of
> > > incompetent monkeys.  I.e., a university department.

> I'm not "boasting"  about them. They simply ARE.

Are you not boasting about it, simply by providing all the little details no 
one cares about, except that it makes your story more believable ?

If I state my IQ was tested as above 140, am I then boasting, or simply 
stating a fact ?  Stating a fact and boasting are not mutually exclusive. 

> > on your whole secure data center turns out to be a school department,
>
> Eh?

What, "Eh?" ?  
Are you taking offense to me calling a "university department" a school ?  Is 
it not what you are, you are an educational institution, ie. a school.

> > undoubtedly with viruses rampant, students hacking at the schools'
> > systems,
>
> Sure - that's precisely what there is.

Hah. Show me one school where there isn't.

> > peer to peer networks installed on the big fileservers unbeknownst to the
>
> Uh, no. We don't run windos. Well, it is on the clients, but I simply
> sabaotage them whenever I can :). That saves time. Then they can boot
> into the right o/s.

Ehm. p2p exists for linux too.  Look into it.  Are you so dead certain no 
student of yours ever found a local root hole ?  
Then you have more balls than you can carry.

> Eh? It's as secure stable and organised as it can be, given that nobody
> is in charge of anything.

Normal people usually refer to such a state as "an anarchy".
Not a perfect example of stability, security or organization by any stretch of 
the imagination...

Maarten

-- 



  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-04 19:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200501030916.j039Gqe23568@inv.it.uc3m.es>
2005-01-03 10:17 ` ext3 journal on software raid (was Re: PROBLEM: Kernel 2.6.10 crashing repeatedly and hard) Guy
2005-01-03 11:31   ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-03 17:34     ` Guy
2005-01-03 19:20       ` ext3 Gordon Henderson
2005-01-03 19:47         ` ext3 Morten Sylvest Olsen
2005-01-03 20:05           ` ext3 Gordon Henderson
2005-01-03 17:46     ` ext3 journal on software raid (was Re: PROBLEM: Kernel 2.6.10 crashing repeatedly and hard) maarten
2005-01-03 19:52       ` maarten
2005-01-03 20:41         ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-03 23:19           ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-03 23:46             ` Neil Brown
2005-01-04  0:28               ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04  1:18                 ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-04  4:29                   ` Neil Brown
2005-01-04  8:43                     ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04  2:07                 ` Neil Brown
2005-01-04  2:16                   ` Ewan Grantham
2005-01-04  2:22                     ` Neil Brown
2005-01-04  2:41                       ` Andy Smith
2005-01-04  3:42                         ` Neil Brown
2005-01-04  9:50                           ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04 14:15                             ` David Greaves
2005-01-04 15:20                               ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04 16:42                             ` Guy
2005-01-04 17:46                               ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04  9:30                         ` Maarten
2005-01-04 10:18                           ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04 13:36                             ` Maarten
2005-01-04 14:13                               ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04 19:22                                 ` maarten [this message]
2005-01-04 20:05                                   ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04 21:38                                     ` Guy
2005-01-04 23:53                                       ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-05  0:58                                       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2005-01-04 21:48                                     ` maarten
2005-01-04 23:14                                       ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-05  1:53                                         ` maarten
2005-01-04  9:46                         ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04 19:02                           ` maarten
2005-01-04 19:12                             ` David Greaves
2005-01-04 21:08                             ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04 22:02                               ` Brad Campbell
2005-01-04 23:20                                 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-05  5:44                                   ` Brad Campbell
2005-01-05  9:00                                     ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-05  9:14                                       ` Brad Campbell
2005-01-05  9:28                                         ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-05  9:43                                           ` Brad Campbell
2005-01-05 15:09                                             ` Guy
2005-01-05 15:52                                               ` maarten
2005-01-05 10:04                                           ` Andy Smith
2005-01-04 22:21                               ` Neil Brown
2005-01-05  0:08                                 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04 22:29                               ` Neil Brown
2005-01-05  0:19                                 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-05  1:19                                   ` Jure Pe_ar
2005-01-05  2:29                                     ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-05  0:38                               ` maarten
2005-01-04  9:40                   ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04 11:57                     ` Which drive gets read in case of inconsistency? [was: ext3 journal on software raid etc] Michael Tokarev
2005-01-04 12:40                       ` Morten Sylvest Olsen
2005-01-04 12:44                       ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04 14:22                         ` Maarten
2005-01-04 14:56                           ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04 14:03                     ` ext3 journal on software raid (was Re: PROBLEM: Kernel 2.6.10 crashing repeatedly and hard) David Greaves
2005-01-04 14:07                       ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04 14:43                         ` David Greaves
2005-01-04 15:12                           ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04 16:54                             ` David Greaves
2005-01-04 17:42                               ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04 19:12                                 ` David Greaves
2005-01-04  0:45           ` maarten
2005-01-04 10:14             ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04 13:24               ` Maarten
2005-01-04 14:05                 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04 15:31                   ` Maarten
2005-01-04 16:21                     ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04 20:55                       ` maarten
2005-01-04 21:11                         ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04 21:38                         ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-04 23:29                           ` Guy
2005-01-04 19:57                     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2005-01-04 21:05                       ` maarten
2005-01-04 21:26                         ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-04 21:46                         ` Guy
2005-01-03 20:22       ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-03 23:05         ` Guy
2005-01-04  0:08         ` maarten
2005-01-04  8:57         ` I'm glad I don't live in Spain (was Re: ext3 journal on software raid) David L. Smith-Uchida
2005-01-03 21:36       ` ext3 journal on software raid (was Re: PROBLEM: Kernel 2.6.10 crashing repeatedly and hard) Guy
2005-01-04  0:15         ` maarten
2005-01-04 11:21           ` Michael Tokarev
2005-01-03  9:30 Peter T. Breuer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-12-30  0:31 PROBLEM: Kernel 2.6.10 crashing repeatedly and hard Georg C. F. Greve
2004-12-30 16:23 ` Georg C. F. Greve
2004-12-30 17:39   ` Peter T. Breuer
2004-12-30 19:50     ` Michael Tokarev
2004-12-30 21:39       ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-02 19:42         ` ext3 journal on software raid (was Re: PROBLEM: Kernel 2.6.10 crashing repeatedly and hard) Andy Smith
2005-01-02 20:18           ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-03  0:30             ` Andy Smith
2005-01-03  6:41               ` Neil Brown
2005-01-03  8:37                 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-03  8:03               ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-03  8:58                 ` Guy
2005-01-03 12:11                 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-01-03 14:23                   ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-03 18:30                     ` maarten
2005-01-03 21:36                     ` Michael Tokarev
2005-01-05  9:56           ` Andy Smith
2005-01-05 10:44             ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-05 10:56               ` Brad Campbell
2005-01-05 11:39                 ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-05 12:02                   ` Brad Campbell
2005-01-05 13:23                     ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-05 13:33                       ` Brad Campbell
2005-01-05 14:12                 ` Erik Mouw
2005-01-05 14:37                   ` Michael Tokarev
2005-01-05 17:11                     ` Erik Mouw
2005-01-06  5:41                       ` Brad Campbell
2005-01-05 15:17                 ` Guy
2005-01-05 15:33                   ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-05 16:22                     ` Michael Tokarev
2005-01-05 17:23                       ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-05 16:23                     ` Andy Smith
2005-01-05 16:30                       ` Andy Smith
2005-01-05 17:07                     ` Guy
2005-01-05 17:21                       ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-05 17:32                         ` Guy
2005-01-05 18:37                           ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-05 17:26                       ` David Greaves
2005-01-05 18:16                         ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-05 18:28                           ` Guy
2005-01-05 18:26                         ` Guy
2005-01-05 15:48                   ` Peter T. Breuer

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