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From: ross@lug.udel.edu (Ross Vandegrift)
To: Konstantin Olchanski <olchansk@triumf.ca>
Cc: "J. Ryan Earl" <ryan@dynaconnections.com>,
	Gordon Henderson <gordon@drogon.net>,
	Mattias Wadenstein <maswan@acc.umu.se>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RAID 16?
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 21:31:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060203023156.GA32621@lug.udel.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060202223859.GA26059@sam.triumf.ca>

On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 02:38:59PM -0800, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
> Despite the claims for the opposite, hot-swap SATA does work,
> albeit with caveats and depending on chipsets and drivers.
> 
> Hot-unplug and hot-plug works for me with 3ware (8506) and LSI
> Megaraid (8-port SATA) controllers. Take a drive out, put it back in,
> type in a magic controller dependant command to enable it, then
> run mdadm --add.

But in both of these cases, the Linux kernel never interacts directly
with individual drives, only with SCSI disks presented to the OS by
the controller.

In other words, the cards and controllers take care of the hotswap so
libata doesn't need to.

> With Promise PDC20319 (4-port SATA), I hot swap by "rmmod sata_promise;
> remove old disk; connect new disk; modprobe sata_promise". I am sure
> this "rmmod" trick works for hot-swapping disks on any SATA controller.

I used to do this to hot swap ISA cards ::-)

I had a box with two ISA slots.  I only had ISA modem, sound card, and
NIC.  The NIC stayed in.  The modem and the sound card were both PnP,
so I could run isapnp to bring them up after a swap.  Never fried
anything, despite it being a horribly bad idea!

Don't try that at home...

-- 
Ross Vandegrift
ross@lug.udel.edu

"The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who
make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians
have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine
man in the bonds of Hell."
	--St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-03  2:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-02  5:59 RAID 16? David Liontooth
2006-02-02  6:03 ` Neil Brown
2006-02-02  8:34 ` Gordon Henderson
2006-02-02 16:17 ` Matthias Urlichs
2006-02-02 16:28   ` Mattias Wadenstein
2006-02-02 16:54     ` Gordon Henderson
2006-02-02 20:24       ` Matthias Urlichs
2006-02-02 21:18       ` J. Ryan Earl
2006-02-02 21:29         ` Andy Smith
2006-02-02 22:38         ` Konstantin Olchanski
2006-02-03  2:31           ` Ross Vandegrift [this message]
2006-02-03  2:54         ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-02 18:42   ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
2006-02-02 20:34     ` Matthias Urlichs
2006-02-03  0:20     ` Guy
2006-02-03  0:59       ` David Liontooth
2006-02-02 16:44 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2006-02-03  9:08   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-02-03  2:32 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-05 23:42   ` Hard drive lifetime: wear from spinning up or rebooting vs running David Liontooth
2006-02-06  3:57     ` Konstantin Olchanski
2006-02-06  5:25       ` Patrik Jonsson
2006-02-06  4:35     ` Richard Scobie
2006-02-06 10:09     ` Mattias Wadenstein
2006-02-06 16:45       ` David Liontooth
2006-02-06 17:12         ` Francois Barre
2006-02-07  8:44           ` Hans Kristian Rosbach
2006-02-07 19:18           ` Neil Bortnak
2006-02-06 19:22     ` Brad Dameron
2006-02-06 21:15     ` Dan Stromberg
2009-09-20 19:44   ` RAID 16? Matthias Urlichs

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