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From: Wakko Warner <wakko@animx.eu.org>
To: dean gaudet <dean@arctic.org>
Cc: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	david@lang.hm, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: limits on raid
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:30:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070617193025.GA8770@animx.eu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0706171019490.24938@twinlark.arctic.org>

dean gaudet wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Wakko Warner wrote:
> 
> > > i use an external write-intent bitmap on a raid1 to avoid this... you 
> > > could use internal bitmap but that slows down i/o too much for my tastes.  
> > > i also use an external xfs journal for the same reason.  2 disk raid1 for 
> > > root/journal/bitmap, N disk raid5 for bulk storage.  no spindles in 
> > > common.
> > 
> > I must remember this if I have to rebuild the array.  Although I'm
> > considering moving to a hardware raid solution when I upgrade my storage.
> 
> you can do it without a rebuild -- that's in fact how i did it the first 
> time.
> 
> to add an external bitmap:
> 
> mdadm --grow --bitmap /bitmapfile /dev/mdX
> 
> plus add "bitmap=/bitmapfile" to mdadm.conf... as in:
> 
> ARRAY /dev/md4 bitmap=/bitmap.md4 UUID=dbc3be0b:b5853930:a02e038c:13ba8cdc

I used evms to setup mine.  I have used mdadm in the past.  I use lvm ontop
of it which evms makes it a little easier to maintain.  I have 3 arrays
total (only the raid5 was configured by evms, the other 2 raid1s were done
by hand)

> you can also easily move an ext3 journal to an external journal with 
> tune2fs (see man page).

I only have 2 ext3 file systems (One of which is mounted R/O since it's
full), all my others are reiserfs (v3).

What benefit would I gain by using an external journel and how big would it
need to be?

> if you use XFS it's a bit more of a challenge to convert from internal to 
> external, but see this thread:

I specifically didn't use XFS (or JFS) since neither one at the time could
be shrinked.

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-17 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-15  2:58 limits on raid david
2007-06-15  3:05 ` Neil Brown
2007-06-15  3:43   ` david
2007-06-15  3:58     ` Neil Brown
2007-06-15  9:13       ` David Chinner
2007-06-15 22:21         ` Neil Brown
2007-06-15 11:10       ` Avi Kivity
2007-06-15 16:23         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-15 17:20           ` Avi Kivity
2007-06-15 21:59         ` Neil Brown
2007-06-16 17:23           ` Avi Kivity
2007-06-17 13:00           ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-18  4:57           ` David Chinner
2007-06-21  2:56             ` Neil Brown
2007-06-21  6:39               ` David Chinner
2007-06-21  6:45                 ` david
2007-06-21  8:59                   ` David Greaves
2007-06-21 17:00                   ` Mark Lord
2007-06-21 11:00                 ` David Chinner
2007-06-21 12:40               ` Mattias Wadenstein
2007-06-21 14:40                 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-21 16:48                 ` david
2007-06-21 18:30                 ` Martin K. Petersen
2007-06-21 20:08               ` Nix
2007-06-16  2:03       ` Wakko Warner
2007-06-16  3:47         ` Neil Brown
2007-06-16  4:40           ` Dan Merillat
2007-06-16  7:48           ` david
2007-06-16 13:38             ` David Greaves
2007-06-16 17:16               ` david
2007-06-17 17:16             ` Bill Davidsen
2007-06-18 17:20             ` Brendan Conoboy
2007-06-18 17:28               ` david
2007-06-18 18:03                 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-06-18 18:12                   ` david
2007-06-18 18:33                     ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-06-18 18:40                       ` david
2007-06-18 19:11                         ` Brendan Conoboy
2007-06-18 20:52                           ` david
2007-06-18 21:46                             ` Wakko Warner
2007-06-18 21:56                               ` david
2007-06-18 22:00                                 ` Brendan Conoboy
2007-06-19 20:11                                 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-06-19 20:51                                   ` david
2007-06-19 15:07                             ` Phillip Susi
2007-06-19 19:28                               ` david
2007-06-18 18:07                 ` Brendan Conoboy
2007-06-18 18:16                   ` david
2007-06-16 13:33           ` David Greaves
2007-06-17  1:44             ` dean gaudet
2007-06-21  3:01             ` Neil Brown
2007-06-21  8:49               ` David Greaves
2007-06-16 14:08           ` Wakko Warner
2007-06-17  1:47             ` dean gaudet
2007-06-17 13:28               ` Wakko Warner
2007-06-17 17:28                 ` dean gaudet
2007-06-17 19:30                   ` Wakko Warner [this message]
2007-06-17 19:54                     ` dean gaudet
2007-06-17 20:46                       ` david
2007-06-17 20:44                     ` david
2007-06-17 17:14       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-06-21 23:03         ` Bill Davidsen
2007-06-22  2:24           ` Neil Brown
2007-06-22  8:10             ` David Greaves
2007-06-22  9:51               ` david
2007-06-22 12:39                 ` David Greaves
2007-06-22 16:00                   ` Bill Davidsen
2007-06-22 16:55                     ` David Greaves
2007-06-22 18:41                     ` david

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