mdadm usage: creating arrays with helpful names?

mdadm usage: creating arrays with helpful names?

[Richard Michael]

How do I create an array with a helpful name? i.e. "/dev/md/storage"?

The mdadm man page hints at this in the discussion of the --auto option
in the ASSEMBLE MODE section, but doesn't clearly indicate how it's done.

Must I create the device nodes by hand first using MAKEDEV?

Thanks.

Re: mdadm usage: creating arrays with helpful names?

[David Greaves]

Richard Michael wrote:
> How do I create an array with a helpful name? i.e. "/dev/md/storage"?
> 
> The mdadm man page hints at this in the discussion of the --auto option
> in the ASSEMBLE MODE section, but doesn't clearly indicate how it's done.
> 
> Must I create the device nodes by hand first using MAKEDEV?
> 

Does this help?

http://linux-raid.osdl.org/index.php/Partitionable

David

Re: mdadm usage: creating arrays with helpful names?

[David Greaves]

(back on list for google's benefit ;) and because there are some good questions 
and I don't know all the answers... )

Oh, and Neil 'cos there may be a bug ...

Richard Michael wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 08:49:22AM +0100, David Greaves wrote:
>> http://linux-raid.osdl.org/index.php/Partitionable
>>
> 
> Thanks.  I didn't know this site existed (Googling even just 'mdadm'
> doesn't yield it in the first 100 results), and it's helpful.
Good ... I got permission to wikify the 'official' linux raid FAQ but it takes 
time (and motivation!) to update it :)
Hopefully it will snowball as people who use it then contribute back <hint> ;)

As it becomes more valuable to people then more links will be created and Google 
will notice...


> What if don't want a partitioned array?  I simply want the name to be
> nicer than the /dev/mdX or /dev/md/XX style.  (p1 still gives me
> /dev/nicename /dev/nicename0, as your page indicates.)
--auto md

mdadm --create /dev/strawberry --auto md ...
root@ash:/tmp # mdadm --detail /dev/strawberry
/dev/strawberry:
         Version : 00.90.03
   Creation Time : Thu Jun 28 08:25:06 2007
      Raid Level : raid4




> Also, when I use "--create /dev/nicename --auto=p1" (for example), I
> also see /dev/md_d126 created.  Why?  There is then a /sys/block/md_d126
> entry (presumably created by the md driver), but no /sys/block/nicename
> entry.  Why?
Not sure who creates this, mdadm or udev
The code isn't that hard to read and you sound like you'd follow it if you 
fancied a skim-read...

I too would expect that there should be a /sys/block/nicename - is this a bug Neil?

These options don't see a lot of use - I recently came across a bug in the 
--auto p<X> option...

> Finally "--stop /dev/nicename" doesn't remove any of the aforementioned
> /dev or /sys entries.  I don't suppose that it should, but an mdadm
> command to do this would be helpful.  So, how do I remove the oddly
> named /sys entries? (I removed the /dev entries with rm.)  "man mdadm"
> indicates --stop releases all resources, but it doesn't (and probably
> shouldn't).
rm !

'--stop' with mdadm  does release the 'resources', ie the components you used. 
It doesn't remove the array. There is no delete - I guess since an rm is just as 
effective unless you use a nicename...

> [I think there should be a symmetry to the mdadm options
> "--create/--delete" and "--start/--stop".  It's *convenient* --create
> also starts the array, but this conflates the issue a bit..]
> 
> I want to stop and completely remove all trace of the array.
> (Especially as I'm experimenting with this over loopback, and stuff
> hanging around irritates the lo driver.)
You're possibly mixing two things up here...

Releasing the resources with a --stop would let you re-use a lo device in 
another array. You don't _need_ --delete (or rm).
However md does write superblocks to the components and *mdadm* warns you that 
the loopback has a valid superblock..

mdadm: /dev/loop1 appears to be part of a raid array:
     level=raid4 devices=6 ctime=Thu Jun 21 09:46:27 2007

[hmm, I can see why you may think it's part of an 'active' array]

You could do mdadm --zero-superblock to clean the component or just say "yes" 
when mdadm asks you to continue.

see:
# mdadm --create /dev/strawberry --auto md --level=4 -n 6 /dev/loop1 /dev/loop2 
/dev/loop3 /dev/loop4 /dev/loop5 /dev/loop6
mdadm: /dev/loop1 appears to be part of a raid array:
     level=raid4 devices=6 ctime=Thu Jun 28 08:25:06 2007
<blah>
Continue creating array? yes
mdadm: array /dev/strawberry started.

# mdadm --stop /dev/strawberry
mdadm: stopped /dev/strawberry

# mdadm --create /dev/strawberry --auto md --level=4 -n 6 /dev/loop1 /dev/loop2 
/dev/loop3 /dev/loop4 /dev/loop5 /dev/loop6
mdadm: /dev/loop1 appears to be part of a raid array:
     level=raid4 devices=6 ctime=Thu Jun 28 09:07:29 2007
<blah>
Continue creating array? yes
mdadm: array /dev/strawberry started.

David

Re: mdadm usage: creating arrays with helpful names?

[Richard Michael]

On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 09:12:56AM +0100, David Greaves wrote:
> (back on list for google's benefit ;) and because there are some good 
> questions and I don't know all the answers... )

Thanks, I didn't realize I didn't 'reply-all' to stay on the list.

> Hopefully it will snowball as people who use it then contribute back
> <hint> ;)

I will, I'm also keeping notes and changes to the man page. :)

> --auto md

Ah. Thanks for the example(s).

> >Also, when I use "--create /dev/nicename --auto=p1" (for example), I
> >also see /dev/md_d126 created.  Why?  There is then a /sys/block/md_d126
> >entry (presumably created by the md driver), but no /sys/block/nicename
> >entry.  Why?
> Not sure who creates this, mdadm or udev

I'm guessing the kernel's md driver creates it; neither mdmadm nor udev
(just as the kernel creates, for example, sd* disk entries in /sys, but
udev creates the nice entries in /dev).

> The code isn't that hard to read and you sound like you'd follow it if
> you fancied a skim-read...

I read it for the --create option to see who created /dev/mdXX. :) I'll
take another look.

Thanks David.

Cheers.