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From: "Keld Jørn Simonsen" <keld@dkuug.dk>
To: Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>
Cc: Peter Rabbitson <rabbit+list@rabbit.us>,
	Moshe Yudkowsky <moshe@pobox.com>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: In this partition scheme, grub does not find md information?
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:48:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080129144840.GA4621@rap.rap.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <479F331F.7080902@msgid.tls.msk.ru>

On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 05:07:27PM +0300, Michael Tokarev wrote:
> Peter Rabbitson wrote:
> > Moshe Yudkowsky wrote:
> >>
> 
> > It is exactly what the names implies - a new kind of RAID :) The setup
> > you describe is not RAID10 it is RAID1+0.
> 
> Raid10 IS RAID1+0 ;)
> It's just that linux raid10 driver can utilize more.. interesting ways
> to lay out the data.

My understandining is that raid10 is different from RAID1+0

Traditional  RAID1+0 is composed of two RAID1's combined into one RAID0.
It takes 4 drives to make it work. Linux raid10 only takes 2 drives to
work.

Traditional RAID1+0 only have one way of laying out the blocks. 

raid10 have a number of ways to do layout, namely the near, far and
offset ways, layout=n2, f2, o2 respectively.

Traditional RAID1+0 can only do striping of half of the disks involved,
while raid10 can do striping on all disks in the far and offset layouts.



I looked around on the net for documentation of this. The first hits (on
Google) for mkadm did not have descriptions of raid10. Wikipedia
describes raid 10 as a synonym for raid1+0. I think there is too much
confusion on the raid10 term, and that also the marveleous linux raid10
layouts is a little known secret beyound maybe the circles of this
linux-raid list. We should tell others more about the wondersi of raid10.

And then I would like a good reference for describing how raid10,o2
works and why bigger chunks work. 

Best regards
keld

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-29 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-29  4:44 In this partition scheme, grub does not find md information? Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-29  5:08 ` Neil Brown
2008-01-29 11:02   ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-29 11:14     ` Peter Rabbitson
2008-01-29 11:29       ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-29 14:09         ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-29 14:07       ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-29 14:47         ` Peter Rabbitson
2008-01-29 15:13           ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-29 15:41             ` Peter Rabbitson
2008-01-29 16:51               ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-29 17:51                 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-01-29 16:16             ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-29 16:34               ` Peter Rabbitson
2008-01-29 19:34                 ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-29 20:21                   ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-01-29 22:14                     ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-29 23:45                       ` Bill Davidsen
2008-01-30  0:13                         ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-30 22:36                           ` Bill Davidsen
2008-01-30  0:17                       ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-01-29 23:44                   ` Bill Davidsen
2008-01-30  0:22                     ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-01-30  0:26                       ` Peter Rabbitson
2008-01-30 22:39                         ` Bill Davidsen
2008-01-30  0:32                       ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-30  0:53                         ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-01-30  1:00                           ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-31 14:40                             ` Bill Davidsen
2008-01-30 13:11                   ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-30 14:10                     ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-30 14:41                       ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-31 14:59                       ` Bill Davidsen
2008-02-02 20:17                         ` Bill Davidsen
2008-01-30 12:01                 ` Peter Rabbitson
2008-01-29 16:42               ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-29 16:26             ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-01-29 16:46               ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-29 18:01                 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-01-30 13:37                   ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-30 14:47                     ` Peter Rabbitson
2008-01-30 15:21                       ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-01-30 15:35                         ` Peter Rabbitson
2008-01-30 15:46                           ` Loop devices to RAID? (was Re: In this partition scheme, grub does not find md information?) Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-30 15:56                             ` Tim Southerwood
2008-01-29 15:57           ` In this partition scheme, grub does not find md information? Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-29 16:37             ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-01-29 16:57               ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-30 11:03             ` David Greaves
2008-01-30 11:44               ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-30 12:00                 ` WRONG INFO (was Re: In this partition scheme, grub does not find md information?) Peter Rabbitson
2008-01-30 12:41                   ` David Greaves
2008-01-30 13:39                   ` Michael Tokarev
2008-02-04 16:49               ` In this partition scheme, grub does not find md information? John Stoffel
2008-02-04 17:26                 ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-30 11:03           ` David Greaves
2008-01-29 14:48         ` Keld Jørn Simonsen [this message]
2008-01-29 16:00           ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-29 16:25             ` Peter Rabbitson
2008-01-29 14:04     ` Keld Jørn Simonsen

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