From: "Keld Jørn Simonsen" <keld@dkuug.dk>
To: Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>
Cc: Peter Rabbitson <rabbit+list@rabbit.us>,
Moshe Yudkowsky <moshe@pobox.com>,
linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: In this partition scheme, grub does not find md information?
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:01:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080129180101.GB19527@rap.rap.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <479F5882.8050400@msgid.tls.msk.ru>
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 07:46:58PM +0300, Michael Tokarev wrote:
> Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 06:13:41PM +0300, Michael Tokarev wrote:
> >> Linux raid10 MODULE (which implements that standard raid10
> >> LEVEL in full) adds some quite.. unusual extensions to that
> >> standard raid10 LEVEL. The resulting layout is also called
> >> raid10 in linux (ie, not giving new names), but it's not that
> >> raid10 (which is again the same as raid1+0) as commonly known
> >> in various literature and on the internet. Yet raid10 module
> >> fully implements STANDARD raid10 LEVEL.
> >
> > My understanding is that you can have a linux raid10 of only 2
> > drives, while the standard RAID 1+0 requires 4 drives, so this is a huge
> > difference.
>
> Ugh. 2-drive raid10 is effectively just a raid1. I.e, mirroring
> without any striping. (Or, backwards, striping without mirroring).
OK.
uhm, well, I did not understand: "(Or, backwards, striping without
mirroring)." I don't think a 2 drive vanilla raid10 will do striping.
Please explain.
> Pretty much like with raid5 of 2 disks - it's the same as raid1.
I think in raid5 of 2 disks, half of the chunks are parity chynks which
are evenly distributed over the two disks, and the parity chunk is the
XOR of the data chunk. But maybe I am wrong. Also the behaviour of suce
a raid5 is different from a raid1 as the parity chunk is not used as
data.
>
> > I am not sure what vanilla linux raid10 (near=2, far=1)
> > has of properties. I think it can run with only 1 disk, but I think it
>
> number of copies should be <= number of disks, so no.
I have a clear understanding that in a vanilla linux raid10 (near=2, far=1)
you can run with one failing disk, that is with only one working disk.
Am I wrong?
> > does not have striping capabilities. It would be nice to have more
> > info on this, eg in the man page.
>
> It's all in there really. See md(4). Maybe it's not that
> verbose, but it's not a user's guide (as in: a large book),
> after all.
Some man pages have examples. Or info could be written in the faq or in
wikipedia.
Best regards
keld
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-29 18:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-29 4:44 In this partition scheme, grub does not find md information? Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-29 5:08 ` Neil Brown
2008-01-29 11:02 ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-29 11:14 ` Peter Rabbitson
2008-01-29 11:29 ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-29 14:09 ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-29 14:07 ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-29 14:47 ` Peter Rabbitson
2008-01-29 15:13 ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-29 15:41 ` Peter Rabbitson
2008-01-29 16:51 ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-29 17:51 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-01-29 16:16 ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-29 16:34 ` Peter Rabbitson
2008-01-29 19:34 ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-29 20:21 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-01-29 22:14 ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-29 23:45 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-01-30 0:13 ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-30 22:36 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-01-30 0:17 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-01-29 23:44 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-01-30 0:22 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-01-30 0:26 ` Peter Rabbitson
2008-01-30 22:39 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-01-30 0:32 ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-30 0:53 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-01-30 1:00 ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-31 14:40 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-01-30 13:11 ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-30 14:10 ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-30 14:41 ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-31 14:59 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-02-02 20:17 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-01-30 12:01 ` Peter Rabbitson
2008-01-29 16:42 ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-29 16:26 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-01-29 16:46 ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-29 18:01 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen [this message]
2008-01-30 13:37 ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-30 14:47 ` Peter Rabbitson
2008-01-30 15:21 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-01-30 15:35 ` Peter Rabbitson
2008-01-30 15:46 ` Loop devices to RAID? (was Re: In this partition scheme, grub does not find md information?) Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-30 15:56 ` Tim Southerwood
2008-01-29 15:57 ` In this partition scheme, grub does not find md information? Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-29 16:37 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-01-29 16:57 ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-30 11:03 ` David Greaves
2008-01-30 11:44 ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-30 12:00 ` WRONG INFO (was Re: In this partition scheme, grub does not find md information?) Peter Rabbitson
2008-01-30 12:41 ` David Greaves
2008-01-30 13:39 ` Michael Tokarev
2008-02-04 16:49 ` In this partition scheme, grub does not find md information? John Stoffel
2008-02-04 17:26 ` Michael Tokarev
2008-01-30 11:03 ` David Greaves
2008-01-29 14:48 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-01-29 16:00 ` Moshe Yudkowsky
2008-01-29 16:25 ` Peter Rabbitson
2008-01-29 14:04 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
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