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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] md: make devices disappear when they are no longer needed.
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 04:24:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081124042421.GY28946@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081124035530.3465.26724.stgit@notabene.brown>

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 02:55:30PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> Between the call
>    __blkdev_get->get_gendisk->kobj_lookup->md_probe
> and the call
>    __blkdev_get->md_open
> 
> there is no obvious way to hold a reference on the mddev any more, so
> unless something is done, it will disappear and gendisk will be
> destroyed prematurely.
> 
> Also, once we decide to destroy the mddev, there will be an unlockable
> moment before the gendisk is unlinked (blk_unregister_region) during
> which a new reference to the gendisk can be created.  We need to
> ensure that this reference can not be used.  i.e. the ->open must
> fail.
> 
> So:
>  1/  in md_probe we set a flag in the mddev (hold_active) which
>      indicates that the array should be treated as active, even
>      though there are no references, and no appearance of activity.
>      This is cleared by md_release when the device is closed.
>      This ensure that the gendisk will survive between md_probe and
>      md_open.

That won't work.  Note that you are not guaranteed that md_release() will be
called after md_probe(); there are failure exits in __blkdev_get() that do
not reach ->open() at all.

What lifetime rules do you really want?  I never liked the tricks pulled
by md wrt gendisk lifetimes and that might be a good time to sort that
out for good...

What should happen to things like pending IO, etc. on array destruction?
AFAICS, that's the real question...

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-11-24  4:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-24  3:55 [PATCH 0/2] RFC: allow md devices to disappear when not in use NeilBrown
2008-11-24  3:55 ` [PATCH 1/2] md: make devices disappear when they are no longer needed NeilBrown
2008-11-24  4:18   ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-24  5:13     ` Neil Brown
2008-11-24  5:34       ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-24  6:10         ` NeilBrown
2008-11-24  6:12           ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-24  6:24         ` Al Viro
2008-11-24  6:56           ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-24 13:31             ` Al Viro
2008-11-24 14:04               ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-24 14:26                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-24 14:48                   ` Al Viro
2008-11-24 16:08                     ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-24 16:42                       ` Al Viro
2008-11-24 17:18                         ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-28  0:23                     ` Neil Brown
2008-11-24  4:24   ` Al Viro [this message]
2008-11-24  4:47     ` Neil Brown
2008-11-24  6:38       ` Al Viro
2008-11-24  3:55 ` [PATCH 2/2] Allow md devices to be created by name NeilBrown

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